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Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#11

Post by bubblethink »

nolok wrote: post #9

For anyone interested, the link really should be the full bug report: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=876523 The current link says it as if Chrome was not being fair, but reading their reasoning it makes total sense. Key quote from said bug report: > We thought about blacklisting nouveau driver long time ago, and decided to let more adventurous users to play around. Now that Ubuntu ships with no…

>Now that Ubuntu ships with nouveau on default, maybe it's time to blacklist it in Chrome.

I don't get this. All linux distros under the sun ship with nouveau, and always have. It is a kernel driver afterall. What else are they going to ship ?

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#12

Post by cheald »

bubblethink wrote: post #10

This sucks. Chromium doesn't do accelerated video decode for intel on linux either. And now this. What's the AMD scene like ?

The amdgpu drivers in Linux are fantastic these days. Works out of the box with most hardware. No proprietary binaries needed, other than the firmware blobs. AMD is doing a really solid job of supporting their Linux user base.

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#13

Post by amyjess »

bubblethink wrote: post #11
nolok wrote: post #9

For anyone interested, the link really should be the full bug report: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=876523 The current link says it as if Chrome was not being fair, but reading their reasoning it makes total sense. Key quote from said bug report: > We thought about blacklisting nouveau driver long time ago, and decided to let more adventurous users to play around. Now that Ubuntu ships with no…

>Now that Ubuntu ships with nouveau on default, maybe it's time to blacklist it in Chrome. I don't get this. All linux distros under the sun ship with nouveau, and always have. It is a kernel driver afterall. What else are they going to ship ?

The VESA driver?

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#14

Post by bubblethink »

cheald wrote: post #12
bubblethink wrote: post #10

This sucks. Chromium doesn't do accelerated video decode for intel on linux either. And now this. What's the AMD scene like ?

The amdgpu drivers in Linux are fantastic these days. Works out of the box with most hardware. No proprietary binaries needed, other than the firmware blobs. AMD is doing a really solid job of supporting their Linux user base.

Yes, but does chromium play nice for acceleration ?

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#15

Post by abrowne »

Doesn't hardware accelerated graphics on Firefox on Linux require modifying a preference? AFAIK you need to go to about:config and enable layers.acceleration.force-enabled. (This is speaking as someone who uses Firefox on Linux as my main browser.)

The bug for enabling hardware rendering by default on some systems appears to still be open: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594876

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#16

Post by moonbug »

cheald wrote: post #12
bubblethink wrote: post #10

This sucks. Chromium doesn't do accelerated video decode for intel on linux either. And now this. What's the AMD scene like ?

The amdgpu drivers in Linux are fantastic these days. Works out of the box with most hardware. No proprietary binaries needed, other than the firmware blobs. AMD is doing a really solid job of supporting their Linux user base.

Nvidia also does an excellent job of supporting linux. It's just not open source.

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#17

Post by cheald »

bubblethink wrote: post #14
cheald wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amdgpu drivers in Linux are fantastic these days. Works out of the box with most hardware. No proprietary binaries needed, other than the firmware blobs. AMD is doing a really solid job of supporting their Linux user base.

Yes, but does chromium play nice for acceleration ?

Seems to be. From about:gpu:

    Graphics Feature Status
    Canvas: Hardware accelerated
    Flash: Hardware accelerated
    Flash Stage3D: Hardware accelerated
    Flash Stage3D Baseline profile: Hardware accelerated
    Compositing: Hardware accelerated
    Multiple Raster Threads: Enabled
    Native GpuMemoryBuffers: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
    Out-of-process Rasterization: Disabled
    Hardware Protected Video Decode: Hardware accelerated
    Rasterization: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
    Skia Deferred Display List: Disabled
    Skia Renderer: Disabled
    Surface Control: Disabled
    Surface Synchronization: Enabled
    Video Decode: Hardware accelerated
    Viz Service Display Compositor: Disabled
    WebGL: Hardware accelerated
    WebGL2: Hardware accelerated

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#18

Post by fhrow4484 »

Will this make Firefox the best browser on Linux by default then?

Also, as mentionned in the bug thread, if nouveau is actually stable on Newer versions, similar to User Agents, the newer nouveau versions could change their name to bypass the blacklisting. No need to pretend to be NVIDIA, just something different that nouveau, like 'nuevo' or something.

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#19

Post by haneefmubarak »

bubblethink wrote: post #11
nolok wrote: post #9

For anyone interested, the link really should be the full bug report: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=876523 The current link says it as if Chrome was not being fair, but reading their reasoning it makes total sense. Key quote from said bug report: > We thought about blacklisting nouveau driver long time ago, and decided to let more adventurous users to play around. Now that Ubuntu ships with no…

>Now that Ubuntu ships with nouveau on default, maybe it's time to blacklist it in Chrome. I don't get this. All linux distros under the sun ship with nouveau, and always have. It is a kernel driver afterall. What else are they going to ship ?

I think their point is that by default, even with the "use recommended drivers" option enabled, Ubuntu uses the nouveau driver by default instead of installing and using the NVIDIA driver.

Re: Chromium blacklists Nouveau

#20

Post by marcinzm »

fhrow4484 wrote: post #18

Will this make Firefox the best browser on Linux by default then? Also, as mentionned in the bug thread, if nouveau is actually stable on Newer versions, similar to User Agents, the newer nouveau versions could change their name to bypass the blacklisting. No need to pretend to be NVIDIA, just something different that nouveau, like 'nuevo' or something.

Per the comment from abrowne Firefox does not do hardware acceleration by default on Linux for any hardware. So same as Chrome for Nouveau but Chrome does support acceleration for other drivers out of the box. It seems slightly easier to enable it for Firefox but both browsers provide a way to enable acceleration if you want to take the risk.
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