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Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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Your decision to show ads to your users this last week without their consent was the last straw for me. And believe me, I've stood A LOT from you. My relationship with you has been practically abusive. Farewell Mozilla, it's been real.

Where on earth are you going? Chrome? There are no other independent browser engines left besides Firefox, web browsers are a duopoly now and if you think Google is better on data collection and ads than Mozilla, I have a bridge to sell you.

You could literally be Firefox talking. You don't want us to do this? But when we do, where are you going to go? The other guy is worse.

edit: I feel like I should footnote this with the observation that Firefox is at the lowest marketshare it's ever been, and continues to shed users. It currently only exists so to be used as a defense in future antitrust actions against Google.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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Except they actually provide useful features like Firefox Sync. If you opt into that service it is impossible for them to provide it to you withouth having your data on their servers.

I understand that. Those features are not useful at all to me , that's why I said "my" data.

Then you wouldn't sign in to sync. They wouldn't have your data. What was your point again?

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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Where on earth are you going? Chrome? There are no other independent browser engines left besides Firefox, web browsers are a duopoly now and if you think Google is better on data collection and ads than Mozilla, I have a bridge to sell you.

Chrome isn't the only other option. There are tons of browsers that are more respectful of user privacy than Firefox: - Firefox (but fixed with settings that are hidden from the user for some reason) - IceCat, Waterfox, Pale Moon, etc. - Ungoogled Chromium, Iridium, Qutebrowser, etc. Mozilla's actions (Cliqz spyware integration, ads in the browser, Google analytics in the browser, locked enabled telemetry, etc.) show…

> tons of browsers

So...some minor derivatives of Firefox, plus some hacked-on versions of Chromium. What are you going to do if Firefox goes away?

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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Mozilla bragging to me about how they're defending me on the web is like Smith & Wesson telling me they're keeping me safe from guns.

It also seems like the height of hypocrisy to complain about data privacy when people use almost exclusively free services online. Somebody has to pay for it all, and since users refuse to do so, advertising has to. It's simple math: if you don't pay for content, your data will be monetized to pay for it. If all use of private data on the web was somehow regulated into oblivion, the web would collapse, because there'd be no money to pay for it.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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Interesting thesis but, 1. turn them off. Like any other application on the planet, you get some defaults and you turn on/off what you want, yourself, if what you want is different from the default. Settings => Home => Firefox Home Content. There's even a settings shortcut on the new tab view to take you to those settings, so turn it off first and see if you feel better now that you'll never see pocket ever again. 2.…

1. my objection was to it being opt-out. "Turn it off" is not a valid solution to that. I'm wondering if you read my comment fully? And it's not just me. You're saying that Mozilla is expecting all users to opt-out to protect themselves... from Mozilla itself. By Mozilla claims to be protecting those users... 2. you say it's not the antithesis of what they stand for but you've given no reasoning. Why is Mozilla compi…

Your browser history _is_ a personal profile of your browsing preferences. What's the difference?

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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post #23

Your decision to show ads to your users this last week without their consent was the last straw for me. And believe me, I've stood A LOT from you. My relationship with you has been practically abusive. Farewell Mozilla, it's been real.

Do you have link to what you're referring to?

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

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1. my objection was to it being opt-out. "Turn it off" is not a valid solution to that. I'm wondering if you read my comment fully? And it's not just me. You're saying that Mozilla is expecting all users to opt-out to protect themselves... from Mozilla itself. By Mozilla claims to be protecting those users... 2. you say it's not the antithesis of what they stand for but you've given no reasoning. Why is Mozilla compi…

Your browser history _is_ a personal profile of your browsing preferences. What's the difference?

Nobody said it wasn't? What's your point?

The only thing that's being debated is whether sending a personal profile of your browsing preferences compiled from metadata is ok simply because it's not a personal profile of your browsing preferences consisting of your entire browsing history.

You're right that both things are profiles—that's not being argued.

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