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Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#31
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you feel the same way about including Google as the default search engine? If not, why not?

Switching to a different default search engine is trivial. Removing pocket not so much...

About:config

Pocket.enabled

Set to false

Seems pretty simple to me.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#32
post #23

Your decision to show ads to your users this last week without their consent was the last straw for me. And believe me, I've stood A LOT from you. My relationship with you has been practically abusive. Farewell Mozilla, it's been real.

Where on earth are you going? Chrome? There are no other independent browser engines left besides Firefox, web browsers are a duopoly now and if you think Google is better on data collection and ads than Mozilla, I have a bridge to sell you.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#34
post #5

Dear Mozilla, you have no business having my data in the first place. If you're promising to keep my data safe, things have already gone wrong.

>you have no business having my data in the first place...

???

Mozilla doesn't have your data.

The only way Mozilla would ever have any of your data is if you explicitly signed up for one of their services to hold your data for syncing purposes or something.

Unless you very actively said "Take my data please!" at some point, there really are very few things Mozilla would be able to do to get at your data. (In fact, by far the easiest thing for them to do would be to forget about using firefox and just buy the data from Facebook or Google.)

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#35
post #14

"You decide what to share and when." That's demonstrably false. Disabling telemetry resulted in the collection of meta-telemetry, in violation of users' explicitly expressed decision to not allow collection of telemetry. https://www.ghacks.net/2018/09/21/mozilla-wants-to-estimate-...

What a meaningless statement.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly do not understand why so many people are angry about Pocket: https://help.getpocket.com/article/1142-firefox-new-tab-reco... > Important Note: Neither Mozilla nor Pocket receives a copy of your browser history. The entire process of sorting and filtering which stories you should see happens locally in your copy of Firefox. Do you think they're lying? Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integr…

They're not lying, they're just missing the point. 1. I don't want recommendations, I didn't ask for recommendations. Having it as a feature that can be enabled for pocket-users might be defensible, opt-out isn't. 2. Even if they're somehow keeping your full browser history on your machine for processing (which is an irrelevant point anyway since it's often synced with your Firefox account anyway), the point is they'…

I assume Mozilla makes a fair bit of money from the Pocket recommendations, and disabling it is one checkbox in the settings screen.

> an irrelevant point anyway since it's often synced with your Firefox account anyway

Only if you sign up for a Firefox account and enable sync!

> the point is they're collecting data on your personal preferences... the generated metadata representing a personal profile of you is.

I don't think this is true. They say:

> Recommendations from Pocket are displayed on your new tab, we collect information about how many times they appear and whether or not you interact with them. However, this information is not associated with any of the other technical and interaction information about you or your copy of Firefox.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#37
post #23

Your decision to show ads to your users this last week without their consent was the last straw for me. And believe me, I've stood A LOT from you. My relationship with you has been practically abusive. Farewell Mozilla, it's been real.

Where on earth are you going? Chrome? There are no other independent browser engines left besides Firefox, web browsers are a duopoly now and if you think Google is better on data collection and ads than Mozilla, I have a bridge to sell you.

"a least they aren't as bad as Google and Chrome" is far from glowing praise.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#38
post #2

Lets start with removing pocket and installing unlock origin by default. I'll believe you. And I say this as a loyal user since 2006.,

Don't like Pocket, don't use it. I personally find it convenient, I'm not at the point I consider everything I browse equally sensitive. There are pages I don't consider being particularly sensitive I want to read later without cluttering my tabs. I really understand peoples wanting to protect everything, it's a valid choice, but I'm not there yet personally, thus for me Pocket is useful.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#39
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly do not understand why so many people are angry about Pocket: https://help.getpocket.com/article/1142-firefox-new-tab-reco... > Important Note: Neither Mozilla nor Pocket receives a copy of your browser history. The entire process of sorting and filtering which stories you should see happens locally in your copy of Firefox. Do you think they're lying? Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integr…

> Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services? Yes. I hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services.

I actually love Pocket, finding it great for organising my many bookmarks - but at the same time, I don't want proprietary services built into Firefox.

IMO, Pocket should be an extension, same as any other. Though I wouldn't even mind if the Firefox installer asked if I wanted to install this extension during installation, treating it as a kind of "Mozilla recommended" extension.

Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold

#40
post #14

"You decide what to share and when." That's demonstrably false. Disabling telemetry resulted in the collection of meta-telemetry, in violation of users' explicitly expressed decision to not allow collection of telemetry. https://www.ghacks.net/2018/09/21/mozilla-wants-to-estimate-...

For 1% of the users opting out of telemetry. And anonymized. And also the data not being telemetry related.

Technicaly correct, but pretending that this is mozilla going against the spirit of "decide what to share and when" is at best stretching it, and worst case willingly misrepresenting the case.

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