"Who's that guy?" "That's Tron, he fights for the users." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kcgosLwPDE
That dialogue is gold.
Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
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Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#12First of all, what data do you have and why do you have it?
You could just check out their privacy policy you know: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/
It's literally linked from just below the "Download Firefox" button and in the page footer.
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#13Never sold, just given away, see the cliqz debacle.
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/10/06/mozilla-to-launch-firefox-...
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#14"You decide what to share and when."
That's demonstrably false. Disabling telemetry resulted in the collection of meta-telemetry, in violation of users' explicitly expressed decision to not allow collection of telemetry.
https://www.ghacks.net/2018/09/21/mozilla-wants-to-estimate-...
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#15Lets start with removing pocket and installing unlock origin by default. I'll believe you. And I say this as a loyal user since 2006.,
I honestly do not understand why so many people are angry about Pocket: https://help.getpocket.com/article/1142-firefox-new-tab-reco... > Important Note: Neither Mozilla nor Pocket receives a copy of your browser history. The entire process of sorting and filtering which stories you should see happens locally in your copy of Firefox. Do you think they're lying? Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integr…
They're not lying, they're just missing the point.
1. I don't want recommendations, I didn't ask for recommendations. Having it as a feature that can be enabled for pocket-users might be defensible, opt-out isn't.
2. Even if they're somehow keeping your full browser history on your machine for processing (which is an irrelevant point anyway since it's often synced with your Firefox account anyway), the point is they're collecting data on your personal preferences. The raw data isn't the point, the generated metadata representing a personal profile of you is. It's the processing, regardless of where it takes place, that is objectionable in itself. Doing that processing at all in any form is the antithesis of what Mozilla claims they stand for in this article.
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services? Yes. I hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services.
Do you feel the same way about including Google as the default search engine? If not, why not?
Switching to a different default search engine is trivial. Removing pocket not so much...
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#17Dear Mozilla, you have no business having my data in the first place. If you're promising to keep my data safe, things have already gone wrong.
Firefox does not force you to submit data to them to be useful. Everything can be disabled.
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services? Yes. I hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services.
Do you feel the same way about including Google as the default search engine? If not, why not?
Exactly. I don't have a problem Google or Pocket defaults.
But if I did, Google seems 100x the larger problem.
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#19Dear Mozilla, you have no business having my data in the first place. If you're promising to keep my data safe, things have already gone wrong.
Curious, let me construct a bit of a straw man. Would you be ok with their data collection if that data was only interaction data? What features are you using, sans tracking features that may reveal who you are and what sites you visit? Assume for the sake of this question that it has been verified by 200 third parties to be the case.
What about bug reports?
I’m just curious if the line is “absolutely no data” or “nothing identifiable to me or my habits”, or something else.
Re: Firefox Fights for You. We keep your data safe, never sold
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly do not understand why so many people are angry about Pocket: https://help.getpocket.com/article/1142-firefox-new-tab-reco... > Important Note: Neither Mozilla nor Pocket receives a copy of your browser history. The entire process of sorting and filtering which stories you should see happens locally in your copy of Firefox. Do you think they're lying? Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integr…
> Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services? Yes. I hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services.
Exactly. I stopped trusting Mozilla when Pocket went in. I just "upgraded" Firefox to make it shut up, and I spent 15 minutes checking the privacy options to see if they were sneaking anything in. I still don't see a way to totally remove "Sync".
I don't want the browser talking to any site that's not absolutely necessary to display the page. Period.