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The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most frequent flyers

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The timing can also play into it (not sure if by 'plan' you mean down to the hour as well). https://i.imgur.com/1IyKjSg.jpg As I get older, my tolerance has lowered. I used to be able to handle a Starbucks 'tall' cup, but now I can only drink two espressos at most, if spaced out by two hours or so. If I go over my limit, it's 7-9 hours of lying still in a dark room with a migraine-like headache. For more on cortisol…

Starbucks drip coffee contains a lot more caffeine per serving than espresso... I have seen figures that a venti size medium roast can be 280mg total, while single espresso shots might be as little as 70mg. https://www.kickinghorsecoffee.com/en/blog/caffeine-myths-es...

While it's true that a 20 ounce Venti drip coffee has much more caffeine than a 2 ounce espresso shot, it seems unfair to call them both "a serving". It seems unlikely that the person that's going to drink an entire Venti coffee would just drink a single espresso shot.

A 12 ounce tall Starbucks coffee has 193mg and a double espresso shot has 150mg. (a tall Americano has 2 espresso shots, so it too has 150mg of caffeine)

https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/94fbcc2ab1e2435985...

(just in case that link doesn't work, it came from this page: https://www.starbucks.ca/menu/nutrition-info)

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> Office workers, sleepy truckers, hospital nurses on 10-hour shifts, cabbies, students, cops? They're not the only ones who benefit from a cup, or a few, Harkless pointed out. Don't get me wrong, I love coffee. However, it may be more accurate to say that all of these people (including the athletes) are using caffeine to medicate their chronic sleep deprivation, which may be at least partly caused in the first place…

4 time zones... ?

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Baseball teams tend to play multiple games in a row against the same team--I'm guessing this is why they travel fewer miles.

And when they do have to travel in a way that would impact their performance, it's major news (in the baseball world) for days. I remember when the Detroit Tigers had 4 games within 48 hours in different timezones [1] and the MLB got some serious criticism for it. The Tigers had to pull some of their best (and highest paid) players due to lack of sleep. [1] https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2017/05/26/det…

Twice last season, the Giants had to play in Denver (5200 feet altitude) traveling from other cities with no off day. One of these was a day game immediately following a night game in Chicago.

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I'm impressed that the MLB, with ~2X the number of games, manages to travel less than the NBA. I wonder if it's a venue availability issue or a better traveling salesman algorithm.

Well off the top of my head, most of the time baseball teams play 3-4 games in a series in the same place. In basketball, lets say you're an east coast team, they'll usually schedule a tour of all 4 LA teams, but you have to play every Western team once, but not all at once.

  all 4 LA teams
How many NBA teams are there in L.A., again?

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> Office workers, sleepy truckers, hospital nurses on 10-hour shifts, cabbies, students, cops? They're not the only ones who benefit from a cup, or a few, Harkless pointed out. Don't get me wrong, I love coffee. However, it may be more accurate to say that all of these people (including the athletes) are using caffeine to medicate their chronic sleep deprivation, which may be at least partly caused in the first place…

I don't think this is the case. I played on a B/C-tier Overwatch team as the main DPS (mostly Tracer) for several months and I can tell you there is a stark difference in snap-reflex between non-caffeinated and caffeinated states, regardless of sleep amount. There were many other things I did to improve my reflexes and rote mechanical skill in general, but none made as much an obvious difference as caffeine.

Caffeine is obviously s performance enhancing drug. The ncaa has limits to how much caffeine you can have in you while performing, I’m sure other entities do as well.

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Much better than this coffee routine is an afternoon nap.

My sport has similar playing times as NBA players, our games are 2-3/week from 7pm-11pm, and coffee at 6pm is by far not that good as a nap from 3:30 to 5, and drinking a lot of water (1-2 liter) with sugar and electrolytes during the games. Coffee is actually problematic, it causes dehydration. Slightly better than coffee would be beer for pure endurance sports (running, swimming, cycling) which don't need much attention.

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Not sure what you mean by optimize, but MLB teams often play several games against each other in a row. But that’s slightly different because it could be seen to change the dynamic form performance over a season to fewer best out of N events.

Baseball is a bit different because they play 2x as many games per season,so they need to bundle up.

They don’t need to, but they have found it to be more… optimal.

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> Office workers, sleepy truckers, hospital nurses on 10-hour shifts, cabbies, students, cops? They're not the only ones who benefit from a cup, or a few, Harkless pointed out. Don't get me wrong, I love coffee. However, it may be more accurate to say that all of these people (including the athletes) are using caffeine to medicate their chronic sleep deprivation, which may be at least partly caused in the first place…

4 time zones... ?

It's a U.S. sport no?

The U.S. has 6 time zones, but Hawaii/Alaska don't have NBA teams: Relevant time zones are Pacific, Mountain, Central, and Eastern.

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Portland travels further than any other team because "Portland is the only team in the Pacific Northwest." (Geez I'm not a sports fan but who moved the Sonics to Oklahoma without telling me?) Anyway yeah look at this map and you can see it: Portland is both near the geographic extent (like Boston, Miami & LA), and relatively far away from its adjacent cities (unlike those 3). https://sportemind.files.wordpress.com/20…

Clay Bennett. Over a decade ago.

Still a contender for History's Greatest Monster 10 years later.

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I don't think this is the case. I played on a B/C-tier Overwatch team as the main DPS (mostly Tracer) for several months and I can tell you there is a stark difference in snap-reflex between non-caffeinated and caffeinated states, regardless of sleep amount. There were many other things I did to improve my reflexes and rote mechanical skill in general, but none made as much an obvious difference as caffeine.

Caffeine is obviously s performance enhancing drug. The ncaa has limits to how much caffeine you can have in you while performing, I’m sure other entities do as well.

You need to drink a lot of caffeine (or pills I suppose) to go over the limits (unless they're a lot lower now?). We're talking like on the order of a gallon of coffee or something.
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