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Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

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Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

#21
> The handle looks rather contrived

Maybe you could stuff a dozen flat little drain pipes all the way around the walls of the cup, in addition to or as an alternative to routing through the handle. That way the handle could be petite and unsuspicious. Would that be harder to reliably print?

Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

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post #21

> The handle looks rather contrived Maybe you could stuff a dozen flat little drain pipes all the way around the walls of the cup, in addition to or as an alternative to routing through the handle. That way the handle could be petite and unsuspicious. Would that be harder to reliably print?

I actually wanted to do this, and went as far as drawing a sketch on paper, but then I realised it would be impossible to drink from :).

As soon as you tilt the cup towards your lips the nearest tubes would fill up and start siphoning.

Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

#23

I think the point of the cup was that you wouldn't overfill it with wine without losing it in your lap thus encouraging moderation. A pythagorean mug doesn't quite make sense.

Is coffee not worthy of moderation? Is there something wrong with drinking alcohol from a mug?

Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

#24
post #21

> The handle looks rather contrived Maybe you could stuff a dozen flat little drain pipes all the way around the walls of the cup, in addition to or as an alternative to routing through the handle. That way the handle could be petite and unsuspicious. Would that be harder to reliably print?

I actually wanted to do this, and went as far as drawing a sketch on paper, but then I realised it would be impossible to drink from :). As soon as you tilt the cup towards your lips the nearest tubes would fill up and start siphoning.

That is a really good point that didn't occur to me.

So, how about winding all the tubes together around the cup in a spiral? That would keep the high point always above the liquid line, unless the cup is sitting flat when over-filled, wouldn't it?

Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually wanted to do this, and went as far as drawing a sketch on paper, but then I realised it would be impossible to drink from :). As soon as you tilt the cup towards your lips the nearest tubes would fill up and start siphoning.

That is a really good point that didn't occur to me. So, how about winding all the tubes together around the cup in a spiral? That would keep the high point always above the liquid line, unless the cup is sitting flat when over-filled, wouldn't it?

What a great idea. That seems like it would work!

The high point of each siphon could be exactly opposite the entry point.

The siphons would need to cross past each other, but only 2 at any one point need to cross, which I think is manageable.

Maybe my Pythagorean cup rabbithole is still not over...

Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

#26
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a really good point that didn't occur to me. So, how about winding all the tubes together around the cup in a spiral? That would keep the high point always above the liquid line, unless the cup is sitting flat when over-filled, wouldn't it?

What a great idea. That seems like it would work! The high point of each siphon could be exactly opposite the entry point. The siphons would need to cross past each other, but only 2 at any one point need to cross, which I think is manageable. Maybe my Pythagorean cup rabbithole is still not over...

> Maybe my Pythagorean cup rabbithole is still not over...

I'm sorry! ;) And I will love to see it printed and/or turned into another post.

Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

#27

I think the point of the cup was that you wouldn't overfill it with wine without losing it in your lap thus encouraging moderation. A pythagorean mug doesn't quite make sense.

Is coffee not worthy of moderation? Is there something wrong with drinking alcohol from a mug?

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Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

#28
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a great idea. That seems like it would work! The high point of each siphon could be exactly opposite the entry point. The siphons would need to cross past each other, but only 2 at any one point need to cross, which I think is manageable. Maybe my Pythagorean cup rabbithole is still not over...

> Maybe my Pythagorean cup rabbithole is still not over... I'm sorry! ;) And I will love to see it printed and/or turned into another post.

On second thoughts, I still don't think it would work.

As you tilt the cup towards your lips, if the "highest" siphon pickup is still submerged, then that will correspond to the "lowest" siphon top and it will start siphoning anyway.

It would work as long as it could be arranged that the pickup would become exposed to air before the siphon started siphoning, but I'm not sure that's possible while still retaining the property that it self-starts when overfilled.

Also, even if the tube doesn't siphon because the pickup is exposed to air, there would still be liquid in the tube, some of which would get pushed over the top and leak out the bottom whenever you try to drink.

Re: Towards a Better Pythagorean Cup

#30

I would love to find some sort of application for the p-cup (Besides pranking people that is) Maybe a cistern with less moving parts, indoor irrigation, pet water dispenser Should maybe make an "ask HN" ?

I was wondering the same. Pet food dispenser sounds reasonable. This is a literal manifestation of the “leaky bucket” rate limiting algorithm.
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