Compass Pathways has set itself up to be the first legal provider of psilocybin

Post by jlarocco » Sat, Jan 05, 2019, 1:53 AM UTC

johnwyles wrote: post #77

basseq wrote: post #35

This is an interesting article for HN. It's spun as a negative, using terms like "threatening", "monopoly", "controversial", and "retribution". You could write it the other way, where an immigrant-founded[1] startup is disrupting the mental health industry. Frankly, most of this seems like par for the course. Of course the company is seeking to push their product to market and commercial viability--and the potential…

did you read the article completely? there are 9 critics that worked with them, 6 ceased doing so. the company formed and closed it's non-profit venture and they are using typical pharma tactics, creating patents around it. spin is one thing but those facts do tell a story on it's own. > These experts are further troubled by the company’s business structure: Having first registered as a charity, Goldsmith and Malievs…

Post by newname2018 » Sat, Jan 05, 2019, 2:40 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #47

simplecomplex wrote: post #42

“Therapy” is the biggest legal scam in the US. Feeling depressed? Here have whatever chemical psychologists happen to be playing with today! Take some mushrooms, no wait, exercise, no wait, take this, no wait that doesn’t work and is dangerous so take this instead. “Prior to founding Compass, George Goldsmith and Ekaterina Malievskaia, a married couple, did not have experience in psilocybin research or working in the…

Would you please stop posting unsubstantive rants to HN? As you know, we're trying for a bit better than internet default here. Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Post by jessaustin » Sat, Jan 05, 2019, 3:03 AM UTC

claudiulodro wrote: post #19

jessaustin wrote: post #3

This is a natural product. One can grow it in the basement of one's home. One can gather it where it grows wild. (Ask me how I know!) No user of this product has ever harmed anyone else as a result of using it. Any restrictions at all on this product could only ever be tyrannical. Let's not abide tyranny, ok?

Would you say antidepressants are not dangerous to anyone even though they cause suicidal ideation in some people? One notable mushroom incident I remember is the tourist in Amsterdam that jumped off a building after using mushrooms.[1] That being said, the solution to the issue is definitely not what the company in the article is trying to do. [1] http://www.simplyamsterdam.nl/French_tourist_in_Amsterdam_co...

Post by Dylan16807 » Sat, Jan 05, 2019, 3:43 AM UTC

jjeaff wrote: post #117

rdiddly wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can spin it any way you want, but to me, expropriating the intellectual property of the non-profit (obtained under the pretense of being a non-profit) and exploiting it for private gain is the issue here. Even though that part is apparently legal. (Unless challenged in court somehow. We'll see.)

Isn't exploiting the intellectual property of a non-profit for financial gain the business model for essentially every single tech company in existence? That is, at least every tech company that has open source software somewhere in their stack - which is presumably all of them.

Post by ada1981 » Sat, Jan 05, 2019, 4:01 AM UTC

dannyw wrote: post #103

ada1981 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you look at the other psychedelic with breakthrough status - MDMA, which Rick Doblin has brought through clinical trials as a non-profit. Doblin has no profit motive and is stoked with his $70k a year salary. His goal is changing culture, that is his motive.

MAPS’ MDMA is also commercialised by a for profit company. As far as I know, the company is independent and not the Mozilla approach (Mozilla Foundstion owns Mozilla corporation).