Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by ge0rg » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 4:35 PM UTC

Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber
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Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by jcbrand » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 4:36 PM UTC

As luck would have it, the XMPP newsletter was also sent out today: https://xmpp.org/2019/01/the-xmpp-newsletter-4-january-2019/

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by yosamino » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 4:49 PM UTC

I really like that xmpp is experiencing a sort of revival at the moment.

Not maybe in terms of user-base, but Conversations for android is really good, on iOS ChatSecure has some issues, but is usable. OTR encryption is being replaced by OMEMO, and that actually works. I can use and try out clients to my hearts content, with messages being synchronized between them.

That I can run my own server on prosody or ejabberd is really great as well.

And since we're back to "Hey can we you use Signal/Threema/Whatsapp/Viber ?" anyhow, it's actually relatively easy to slide in the next option:

"Hmmm, why don't we use ChatSecure ?"

Thanks everyone for making it happen.

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by ppjet6 » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 4:50 PM UTC

Cake!

As I said in another thread, glad to see the community is still active.

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by crankylinuxuser » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 4:56 PM UTC

Speaking of protocols, aside IPFS, what open protocols have come out in the last 5 years?

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by jcbrand » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 5:05 PM UTC

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #5

Speaking of protocols, aside IPFS, what open protocols have come out in the last 5 years?

ActivityPub! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by Whatitat90 » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 5:16 PM UTC

yosamino wrote: post #3

I really like that xmpp is experiencing a sort of revival at the moment. Not maybe in terms of user-base, but Conversations for android is really good, on iOS ChatSecure has some issues, but is usable. OTR encryption is being replaced by OMEMO, and that actually works. I can use and try out clients to my hearts content, with messages being synchronized between them. That I can run my own server on prosody or ejabberd…

Conversations reached a point where I can easily install it on my family member phones and they feel it's a "normal" messenger. This doesn't sound like a high bar to reach but surprisingly it didn't happen before (at least for XMPP).

Recently a spin-off of Conversations - Quicksy was introduced [0] [1] that makes the entry even easier as it offers phone number-based contact discovery. From my experience people are used to quick on-boardings and don't even want to think about things like "username" and looking for contacts.

[0]: https://quicksy.im/

[1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=im.quicksy.cli...

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by Whatitat90 » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 5:18 PM UTC

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #5

Speaking of protocols, aside IPFS, what open protocols have come out in the last 5 years?

Matrix, a competitor to XMPP is 4 years old [0].

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by bhhaskin » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 5:19 PM UTC

I have been looking into building a XMPP server and client lately. Mainly cause the ones out there aren't super great.

Re: Happy Birthday, XMPP: 20th Anniversary of Jabber

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Post by jugg1es » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 5:21 PM UTC

I wish Hacker News would do a better job of insulating me from feelings of senescence. This makes me feel damn old.