Wild monkeys with killer herpes are breeding like crazy in Florida

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 3:51 AM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #24

ntumlin wrote: post #2

Don't take this as me wanting it to happen, but what would it take for the decision to be made to kill these monkeys, and who would make it? Is there a state or federal agency that's ever determined an animal to be a threat to people in an area to the degree that they then tried to wipe it out? Does it matter that the monkeys got put here because some company thought tourists would like them?

>Is there a state or federal agency that's ever determined an animal to be a threat to people in an area to the degree that they then tried to wipe it out? In Florida alone that has happened with pythons in the everglades and lionfish in Florida oceans (at least south Florida). Edit: and African snails. And in a roundabout way mosquitos, but of the lot are not invasive to Florida.

Post by jobigoud » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 8:28 AM UTC

jessaustin wrote: post #33

will_brown wrote: post #25

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Because the solution is typically implemented with a bounty program which is known to result in the intentional release of more of the invasive species to collect more rewards.

That scenario might have happened with e.g. "wild" hogs, but where are the fraudsters going to get a bunch of non-native monkeys? They aren't available at the local livestock auction...

Post by yakshaving_jgt » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 11:34 AM UTC

newnewpdro wrote: post #50

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #48

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I don't think anybody's claiming that having HSV is better than not having HSV, but the fact is that it's incredibly common. It's been with us for millennia and it's not going anywhere until medicine and technology figure out a way to wipe it out. To quote herpes.com stats: > By the time they're teenagers or young adults, about 50% of Americans have HSV-1 antibodies in their blood. By the time they are over age 50, s…

In your own words you stated: > It's not life altering in any way besides the fact that HSV2 has such a strong stigma ... It is potentially quite life-altering, and you may agree with me after you're over 60 years old. If you instead asserted "it hasn't been life-altering in any way so far besides..." then I wouldn't have replied at all. Adding a persistent genital herpes outbreak to six months of shingles in old age…

Post by xfitm3 » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 2:06 PM UTC

newnewpdro wrote: post #40

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #32

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I'd pay a pretty penny for a cure, or total suppression of transmission. It's not life altering in any way besides the fact that HSV2 has such a strong stigma in the US and tends to turn away a non insignificant number of romantic partners. From a health perspective, I had a rash once in my life and basically entirely forgot about even having it (outside of taking 800mg of Acyclovir every day), but from a social pers…

You're ignoring how life-altering it becomes as one ages and the immune system declines. I've had elderly relatives down with shingles, caused by the herpes virus, for months . Their shingles being a very latent reappearance of Chickenpox acquired in childhood. These viruses are opportunistic, and you will grow weaker in time, if you don't die first. The stigma, in this case, is appropriate in my opinion. It surprise…

Post by will_brown » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 2:28 PM UTC

jessaustin wrote: post #56

jobigoud wrote: post #53

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Same. Capture a few and have them breed and collect the reward for the offsprings.

How many Floridians would hear about wild animals with horrible deadly diseases and think "I need to start breeding these in my basement"?