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Bootstrapping 10er, a Patreon-similar service for Danish creators

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Re: Bootstrapping 10er, a Patreon-similar service for Danish creators

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Works great with javascript turned off -- 12kb, finished in under a second. Inspecting the HTML, the rendering seems to be blocked by a script loading the google fonts. Huh. Wonder what this is doing here. Probably hiding the whole website while googlefonts finishes loading. .async-hide { opacity: 0 !important}

https://developers.google.com/optimize/

Hide the page until script loads or 4 seconds pass, some optimization that is!

Re: Bootstrapping 10er, a Patreon-similar service for Danish creators

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The idea is good, but the execution is lacking. I get it's a one-man project so far, and that's going to leave you uncertain about its future unlike Patreon. And while Patreon definitely needs competition, creators also needs assurances before they rely on a service.

I honestly wonder why he did not reach out to a few people, who were passionate about the same thing, to help build this service further. As plenty here have already noticed, the website has some quirks right now that might take months to fix, if ever, considering it is just one person running it.

However, I hope all that will turn around, as he gets more press interest, and others might offer to help. And in a year's time, it has become something people might actually want to rely on. I wish him a lot of luck.

Re: Bootstrapping 10er, a Patreon-similar service for Danish creators

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post #14

The idea is good, but the execution is lacking. I get it's a one-man project so far, and that's going to leave you uncertain about its future unlike Patreon. And while Patreon definitely needs competition, creators also needs assurances before they rely on a service. I honestly wonder why he did not reach out to a few people, who were passionate about the same thing, to help build this service further. As plenty here…

>>and that's going to leave you uncertain about its future unlike Patreon

Given the events of the past month or so, I wouldn't be completely sure about the future of patreon. It's definitely shown the way forward in terms of supporting creators, but the repercussions of their actions seem to be gaining a lot of traction and putting doubt into trusting patreon for people who supported creators via the platform in the past.

Re: Bootstrapping 10er, a Patreon-similar service for Danish creators

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post #6

I like that they are open about their expenses[0]. That's unusual. I wish they would be able to accept payments w/o requiring users to run non-free JS. [0]: https://10er.co/open

If I wanted to accepted payments with open source JS / no JS, are there libraries that make that easy?

The benefit of using the drop-in iframes / client side AJAX is that I get to take money without worrying about PCI compliance -- whereas if I hit some API serverside I'm handling people's credit card information myself, no?

Would be curious to know what options are out there.

Re: Bootstrapping 10er, a Patreon-similar service for Danish creators

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post #8

"I never created a Patreon account for us though. Everytime I began I never finished signing up. The whole thing just seemed like a hassle. Too many input fields and things to consider and graphics to provide. Patreon expects creators to create more content for patrons. We felt we were already giving away lots with our already free content." I actually really like this philosophy. I run a tiny, niche miniatures warga…

Similarly, I find it awkward when creators email me about secret stuff only available to patrons. The magic is that your stuff is free! I don’t want to be incentivising this. The free content led me to donate in the first place. The only way to achieve this is to donate so little, you don’t get any access to secret material. Patreon defeats the purpose of Patreon.

Never thought about it that way but I see your point!

Patreon is a nice service and I use it to give back to several projects. But I don't use any of the things (I suppose) I get in return.

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