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Learning a new skill by putting in 45 minutes a day for a month

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Re: Learning a new skill by putting in 45 minutes a day for a month

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There was a time when I just loved TED talks. That has changed. I am not so sure why. But I think I got the feeling the insights I’m getting are not worth the time spent.

TED talks are infotainment. Pornography for people whose vice is feeling like they've been inspired and gotten smarter. In short, they ring false. It feels like you're learning something, but the lesson plan was devised by a marketing department for the idea. It feels like the primary motivation is how good of a story can be told, and not the actual truth. "Popular science" in all its forms – sucks. Leading people to…

TED talks can help inspire a sense of wanting to learn more, a sort of lie-to-children method (like in HS physics). Also, how you measure psychology as a layperson?

Re: Learning a new skill by putting in 45 minutes a day for a month

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I learned to recognize hiragana and katakana like this. But learning the language itself took me a lot more time and effort. Had to practically immerse myself in Japanese 24/7.

I smashed out Hiragana in 4 hours flat. Learning the rest of the language took 3 years.

I do love the obvious wisdom that if you put a little bit of active effort as opposed to just passive consumption that you can build a skill and not just consume things. It's like those low hanging fruit are good but you're still in pain for another 180 hours until you've done your first 200 hours. That's usually when things start to get sustainably enjoyable because you know enough to not be constantly frustrated and can actually have fun no matter the remaining difficulty. Then once you hit the 2000 hour mark you're pretty much good.

Re: Learning a new skill by putting in 45 minutes a day for a month

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10,000 hours is for mastery not just learning

Well it's likely a little more complicated than that.

Either way my model is 20, 200, 2000. Those are 3 milestones (roughly) where you progress through different phases.

Going on about 10,000 hours for skills isn't meaningful for most people because almost no one will use that info to decide "this only takes 10,000 hours I think I'll master it." It only applies to the people who don't need the advice because they're naturally on the path of doing it anyway.

But 2000 hours you can sit down and have a real think about. After that it's diminishing returns for that last 5%~10% that will take 5x as long.

Re: Learning a new skill by putting in 45 minutes a day for a month

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post #11

I learned to recognize hiragana and katakana like this. But learning the language itself took me a lot more time and effort. Had to practically immerse myself in Japanese 24/7.

Fiance moved to my country and it was insane seeing her go from knowing the numbers 1 to 10 to being able to carry out discussions with my parents, doctors, people in public in less than 12 months. And we speak her native English at home.

She took a class (~1 hour/week for three months) which included forced conversations with a tutor for 10-15 minutes/week where they would talk freely about a subject and a simple written handin about the same topic at the 6 to 9 month mark and I'm really jealous I've never been able to adopt a language that effectively.

Re: Learning a new skill by putting in 45 minutes a day for a month

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post #6

There was a time when I just loved TED talks. That has changed. I am not so sure why. But I think I got the feeling the insights I’m getting are not worth the time spent.

TED talks are mainly a circle jerk now, it used to be partly a circle jerk before but now they aren't even pleasant to watch. You get the same pauses, the same dramatic pics with every single talk.

Re: Learning a new skill by putting in 45 minutes a day for a month

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

10,000 hours checks out. At 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, that's 4.8 years to master say a technology, language, or software stack.

Very convenient that it’s a nice round number.

Indeed. “10000 hours” rings as true as your average Ted Talk.
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