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Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by stretchwithme »

Zak wrote: post #38
stretchwithme wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone is advocating jail time for egging people. But you should at least get SOME negative repercussions from your behavior. A $200 fine should still enable people to turn "their lives around". They should at least be forced to clean up the mess they've made. In olden times when we lived in small villages, yes people knew when someone was being an asshole. And they remembered. One more disincentive aga…

>I don't think anyone is advocating jail time for egging people. I am. I don't think a fine effectively gets across the point that battery and vandalism are crimes , not minor violations like jaywalking. $200 is a speeding ticket, and to some upper-middle class teenagers, little more than pocket change. Three days in jail (or juvenile detention), on the other hand is most likely a novel and frightening experience tha…

oh, ok then. Give them a little time in the corner. Even that is not life ending. Even Martha bounced back.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by sukuriant »

meelash wrote: post #8

Man, I wish those punks would do something like that in my neighborhood. 5 or 6 guys should get together with some nice, big sticks and go patrol the streets. Let some kid throw an egg at them and then go beat the crap out of him (meaning hit him once or twice in a non-vulnerable part of the body until he cries but not cause any actual physical harm). It will only take one kid, one year. Problem solved forever. Self…

Wouldn't posting it here make it premeditated and less "self defense"?

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by stretchwithme »

pbiggar wrote: post #22
bbuffone wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the first result in Google will be the post with their names and their foolish youthful actions..." Actually it won't be... Google works like the world does. If these kids were to do more valuable things with there time and be recognized for that, then these pages with fall in their ranking.

Perhaps, but their attempts to do valuable things will be more difficult. They'll have a very hard time beating a viral video before they apply to college, and getting into college is going to be incredibly difficult once the selection committee Googles them.

I think they'll learn more by being held accountable for their actions than being given a pass.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by PakG1 »

gscott wrote: post #39
sofuture wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cry me a river! If the worst of the things that I did as a kid showed up in my Google results I'd still be hireable. Why? Because I was a goody two-shoes who never did anything wrong? Nope! So why, then? Because while I was maybe mischievous, I wasn't a malicious little shit doing pointlessly antagonistic and destructive things.

For $500 I will seed the web about your accomplishments in nursing baby kittens back to health, your support for the disabled, and how green you are in your buying goats to mow your lawn instead of a gas mower. The part were you are an arsonist, run a medicare fraud ring, and have stolen millions from investors will be so far back in the Google results it will be like it never happened.

Wasn't there a HN post a while back about how this is actually becoming a really big business? Reverse SEO or something like that.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by loewenskind »

pbiggar wrote: post #16
stretchwithme wrote: post #2

Once again, the expectation of privacy while committing crimes is violated. oh, where will this end? Must we be accountable for every little thing we do? Of course, I'm joking. I applaud the posting. We had a similar thing near here where a package thief was recorded making her rounds. And the thieves among us commented how terrible it was that she was put on public display for her crimes. http://www.youtube.com/watc…

> Must we be accountable for every little thing we do? Of course you're right that in general people must be held accountable for their crimes. However, it's somewhat different for children, who need and deserve some protection from the stupid things they do in their youth. I fully support the punishment of the children, and any and all legal ramifications they receive, but I don't believe they should be help account…

The only reason people are scrutinized right now is because it's a small number of people (relative to actual population) having embarrassing things archived online. Once everything stupid anyone anywhere does is online either they wont be able to find your sins for the sheer noise or they wont be able to find enough candidates who don't have similar/worse things.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by [deleted] »

patrickgzill wrote: post #18
lhnn wrote: post #10

I will be so bold as to say this: I doubt there are many places in Texas where this would have happened without those kids getting arrested, or barring that, being rightfully assaulted. When one attacks another's person and property, one should expect retribution.

People in Texas are allowed to have guns. NY not so much. Just ONE adult with a shiny chrome .45, 1911 frame or shotgun would have stopped all of this in its tracks. EDIT to add: "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." -- Robert A. Heinlein

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Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by kleiba »

Minor remark on the quote at the end of the article:

Screenshots were available publicly therefore submitted to the public domain.

Again with the public domain? Of course that's not what the whole article is about, but I'm astonished how this kind of reasoning seems to have manifested itself.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by tomjen3 »

callmeed wrote: post #12

"My sons picture should not even be taken and put on this page with out my consent!" In an age when almost everyone has a camera and Internet access in their pocket, I'm amazed at how ignorant people still are regarding photo/privacy rights ... and I'm not one to have high expectations of society.

That is danish law btw. I can get a court order demanding that my picture be removed from facebook, if somebody uploads it against my will, and I can sue that person under Danish law.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by petercooper »

It's not only OK to record people committing offences, it's an obligation in a modern society where all citizens should be encouraged to take an interest in the safety of their communities (without issuing summary judgments or punishments, of course). We do not deserve to be constantly "monitored" but once you break the laws and rules of a community, you waive a little of your liberty.

People who dig their heads in the sand and ignore minor crime while "leaving to the police" are screwing over their communities with their indifference. And teenagers? That's especially when people should get involved - kids who never learn what the boundaries are become shitty adults.

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