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China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Copying earlier comment: Wikipedia seems to say the rover mission duration is 3 months, yet the previous rover traveled for a year and transmitted a bit longer. The Chinese seemed quite coy about it failing last time (as with many things) so perhaps underpromising in this case? This all preparation for China's planned permanent radio telescope on the far side which would be a huge boon for astronomers by escaping Ear…

These sorts of missions are almost always underpromised (or, at least, based on very conservative estimates). See the various Mars rovers.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

#103
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lagrange points are found near any couple of large bodies. They are points where a smaller object will maintain its position relative to the large orbiting bodies. The Chinese relay satellite is orbiting the L2 point of the Earth-Moon system. That is beyond the Moon on a line which goes from Earth to Moon. Hence, this L2 point orbits the Earth like the Moon does, and the whole system orbits the Sun as well. Now if th…

I just wanted to add that L2 (and L1 and L3) are unstable in that if a satellite is a bit further than the exact point it will tend to get ever further with time and a satellite that's closer will tend to get even closer. But the closer you are to the exact L2 point the smaller these tendencies are and the amount of fuel needed to remain on station is minimal, a satellite will just eventually run out some day and fal…

So how can this craft orbit a point that is not a gravity well but a gravity hill, so to speak?

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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China releases photos from first-ever mission to land on the dark side of the moon https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-dark-side-moon-china-...

Is there a way around the paywall for business insider?

The photos were originally published here: http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/n6758823/n6758838/c6805034/content.ht...

It's the original source. I chose to post the BI article because the original source is in Chinese.

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

#107

China releases photos from first-ever mission to land on the dark side of the moon https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-dark-side-moon-china-...

Is there a way around the paywall for business insider?

https://outline.com/wqfJxr

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a way around the paywall for business insider?

The photos were originally published here: http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/n6758823/n6758838/c6805034/content.ht... It's the original source. I chose to post the BI article because the original source is in Chinese.

I believe they have an English version of the page: http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/english/n6465652/n6465653/c6805049/co...

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a way around the paywall for business insider?

The photos were originally published here: http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/n6758823/n6758838/c6805034/content.ht... It's the original source. I chose to post the BI article because the original source is in Chinese.

I don't blame you, but next time you go to a foreign website, you can look out for icons that resemble national flags or EN.

There is usually an English version of the website available for important government websites (as with this case, the button is on the top right corner).

Re: China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

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post #87

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They have to be careful then. Apollo now means more about the moon landings than the old traditions to me. I don’t know if that’s something the Chinese would like to have happen to their traditions.

Unless you're an ancient Greek, that isn't particularly surprising; it was not part of current traditions when used as the name of a spacecraft.

Learning about the gods of old greece and their stories is still part of the curriculum in a lot of European countries. I doubt most would think of the Moon Landing first.
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