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Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by sofuture »

pbiggar wrote: post #16
stretchwithme wrote: post #2

Once again, the expectation of privacy while committing crimes is violated. oh, where will this end? Must we be accountable for every little thing we do? Of course, I'm joking. I applaud the posting. We had a similar thing near here where a package thief was recorded making her rounds. And the thieves among us commented how terrible it was that she was put on public display for her crimes. http://www.youtube.com/watc…

> Must we be accountable for every little thing we do? Of course you're right that in general people must be held accountable for their crimes. However, it's somewhat different for children, who need and deserve some protection from the stupid things they do in their youth. I fully support the punishment of the children, and any and all legal ramifications they receive, but I don't believe they should be help account…

Cry me a river! If the worst of the things that I did as a kid showed up in my Google results I'd still be hireable. Why? Because I was a goody two-shoes who never did anything wrong? Nope! So why, then?

Because while I was maybe mischievous, I wasn't a malicious little shit doing pointlessly antagonistic and destructive things.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by pbiggar »

bbuffone wrote: post #20
pbiggar wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Must we be accountable for every little thing we do? Of course you're right that in general people must be held accountable for their crimes. However, it's somewhat different for children, who need and deserve some protection from the stupid things they do in their youth. I fully support the punishment of the children, and any and all legal ramifications they receive, but I don't believe they should be help account…

"the first result in Google will be the post with their names and their foolish youthful actions..." Actually it won't be... Google works like the world does. If these kids were to do more valuable things with there time and be recognized for that, then these pages with fall in their ranking.

Perhaps, but their attempts to do valuable things will be more difficult. They'll have a very hard time beating a viral video before they apply to college, and getting into college is going to be incredibly difficult once the selection committee Googles them.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by pyre »

sofuture wrote: post #21
pbiggar wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Must we be accountable for every little thing we do? Of course you're right that in general people must be held accountable for their crimes. However, it's somewhat different for children, who need and deserve some protection from the stupid things they do in their youth. I fully support the punishment of the children, and any and all legal ramifications they receive, but I don't believe they should be help account…

Cry me a river! If the worst of the things that I did as a kid showed up in my Google results I'd still be hireable. Why? Because I was a goody two-shoes who never did anything wrong? Nope! So why, then? Because while I was maybe mischievous, I wasn't a malicious little shit doing pointlessly antagonistic and destructive things.

I'm thinking that you don't subscribe the the idea that people can get a second chance to turn their life around (or that people can turn their life around).

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by jimbokun »

pbiggar wrote: post #22
bbuffone wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the first result in Google will be the post with their names and their foolish youthful actions..." Actually it won't be... Google works like the world does. If these kids were to do more valuable things with there time and be recognized for that, then these pages with fall in their ranking.

Perhaps, but their attempts to do valuable things will be more difficult. They'll have a very hard time beating a viral video before they apply to college, and getting into college is going to be incredibly difficult once the selection committee Googles them.

"They'll have a very hard time beating a viral video before they apply to college, and getting into college is going to be incredibly difficult once the selection committee Googles them."

Are you saying that these kids should be admitted into college over kids that don't throw rocks at people and destroy other people's property?

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by jrockway »

ergo98 wrote: post #19
jrockway wrote: post #14

I clicked through to the link where the people in the town meeting call him a pedophile. I really enjoy watching the town meeting -- 15 minutes of chaos and whining for no reason. People continue to amuse me. BTW, why is it OK to use "pedophile" as an insult? If you used other mental diseases as insults, it's considered offensive. ("You're a retard!") (Incidentally, I am not sure what insult to use for someone that t…

I clicked through to the link where the people in the town meeting call him a pedophile I would like to hear that someone was sued for slander for that. It's an outrageous accusation as a weak "Witch!" cry because their poorly raised, nit wit, addled youth are morons.

Yeah, I don't understand why he even went to the meeting. Let them take him to court. Which they can't do, because he did nothing other than helping the police investigate a crime in progress.

Their "pedophile" is my "model citizen", and I think most people are on my side :)

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by sofuture »

pyre wrote: post #23
sofuture wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cry me a river! If the worst of the things that I did as a kid showed up in my Google results I'd still be hireable. Why? Because I was a goody two-shoes who never did anything wrong? Nope! So why, then? Because while I was maybe mischievous, I wasn't a malicious little shit doing pointlessly antagonistic and destructive things.

I'm thinking that you don't subscribe the the idea that people can get a second chance to turn their life around (or that people can turn their life around).

No, that's not it at all.

I just think that someone so blatantly being a jackass, and being filmed in the act, deserves all the publicity that they get. I'm not suggesting we burn these kids at the stake or tattoo their crimes on their forehead. I just fail to see why anyone should bemoan their potentially besmirched reputation. Boo. Hoo.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by Locke1689 »

patrickgzill wrote: post #18
lhnn wrote: post #10

I will be so bold as to say this: I doubt there are many places in Texas where this would have happened without those kids getting arrested, or barring that, being rightfully assaulted. When one attacks another's person and property, one should expect retribution.

People in Texas are allowed to have guns. NY not so much. Just ONE adult with a shiny chrome .45, 1911 frame or shotgun would have stopped all of this in its tracks. EDIT to add: "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." -- Robert A. Heinlein

In Baltimore anyone dumb enough to do that deserves the bullet they'll get in their head.

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by pyre »

sofuture wrote: post #26
pyre wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking that you don't subscribe the the idea that people can get a second chance to turn their life around (or that people can turn their life around).

No, that's not it at all. I just think that someone so blatantly being a jackass, and being filmed in the act, deserves all the publicity that they get. I'm not suggesting we burn these kids at the stake or tattoo their crimes on their forehead. I just fail to see why anyone should bemoan their potentially besmirched reputation. Boo. Hoo.

At the very least, publicizing it before a trial taints the jury pool... I'm not one to champion the idea of trial by public opinion (because there are a number of cases where public opinion is wrong).

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by electromagnetic »

jrockway wrote: post #14

I clicked through to the link where the people in the town meeting call him a pedophile. I really enjoy watching the town meeting -- 15 minutes of chaos and whining for no reason. People continue to amuse me. BTW, why is it OK to use "pedophile" as an insult? If you used other mental diseases as insults, it's considered offensive. ("You're a retard!") (Incidentally, I am not sure what insult to use for someone that t…

I suppose the good response would be "The term is pederasty, you retard!"

I suppose the best response possible would be to be waiting with predrafted legal papers for slander and ask "Sir what is your name?" when they're forced to respond simply fill out their name and say "Consider yourself served".

Re: NY Blogger Criticized For Posting Photos of Teen Vandals

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Post by Zak »

patrickgzill wrote: post #18
lhnn wrote: post #10

I will be so bold as to say this: I doubt there are many places in Texas where this would have happened without those kids getting arrested, or barring that, being rightfully assaulted. When one attacks another's person and property, one should expect retribution.

People in Texas are allowed to have guns. NY not so much. Just ONE adult with a shiny chrome .45, 1911 frame or shotgun would have stopped all of this in its tracks. EDIT to add: "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." -- Robert A. Heinlein

As a gun owner and advocate of gun rights, I feel the need to call this out as an example of an inappropriate time to use or display a firearm. Vandalism and misdemeanor battery are not cause to threaten someone with deadly force. To do so is highly irresponsible and usually criminal.
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