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The China Boom on US Campuses

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This is the third time I've clicked on a link on the HN frontpage today and been sent to a NYT login page rather than something interesting. I know that "(nytimes.com)" is behind the link but I feel it behooves the submitter to point out that it is required: that open access should be able to be safely assumed.

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In brief; a collection of anecdotes about the rapidly increasing number of PRC students at US universities at undergraduate level, with little in the way of structure.

Interesting points; The Chinese are going everywhere, including no name horribly expensive private colleges. They often experience culture shock and find the drinking and party culture not much fun. The native USAns' social circles are heavily race stratified, the Chinese often socialise very heavily among themselves, living in houses that are all Chinese for example.

- Britain and Australia got there first with the realisation that foreign students can be conned into going to third or fourth tier universities and paying handsomely for it. - There is enormous money in preparing and "preparing" students for going abroad. - Interesting snippets about some universities in the article; the University of Vermont was less than 1% international student until quite recently, Northwestern either needs money or wants to expand its brand, and Columbia like Stanford has an education programme.

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This is the third time I've clicked on a link on the HN frontpage today and been sent to a NYT login page rather than something interesting. I know that "(nytimes.com)" is behind the link but I feel it behooves the submitter to point out that it is required: that open access should be able to be safely assumed.

Try my weekend project: http://viewtext.org/article?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nytimes.com...

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This is the third time I've clicked on a link on the HN frontpage today and been sent to a NYT login page rather than something interesting. I know that "(nytimes.com)" is behind the link but I feel it behooves the submitter to point out that it is required: that open access should be able to be safely assumed.

I think this most often happens when the submitter for some reason didn't get the login screen. The NYT seems to be actively varying when it prompts people, in order to keep links to their stuff included in "the online conversation". Some cases where there's no prompt: 1) I think anyone from an .edu IP range; 2) if you follow a link from a big link-sharing site like Reddit (or Google News); 3) if it's your first nytimes click of the day.

HN seems to not be big enough to get the #2 treatment, so people who find a story on Reddit or Google News and then submit to HN might not notice that it went from no-prompt to prompt-required. People who hadn't read any previous nytimes stories that day might also not notice. More info: http://www.businessinsider.com/janet-robinson-online-paywall...

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I just went to a small alumni event from my university yesterday and spoke to some of the "development" people. One of the initiatives the university has had in the last 4-5 years has been increasing the undergrad enrollment by ~30% (very controversial with the alumni). Part of that strategy it to greatly increase foreign undergrad enrollment. The people from the university said that in the last couple of years the university endowment has down better than many of its "peer institutions", in large part due to the full tuition paying international students. In contrast to the NYT story, it seems that many of the international students I've heard about are actually being paid for by their governments, although a lot are just from (relatively) rich families as well.

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This is the third time I've clicked on a link on the HN frontpage today and been sent to a NYT login page rather than something interesting. I know that "(nytimes.com)" is behind the link but I feel it behooves the submitter to point out that it is required: that open access should be able to be safely assumed.

Try my weekend project: http://viewtext.org/article?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nytimes.com...

Very nice. Are you using a variation of the Arc90 readability algorithm or something else? Aha I just saw you talk about them in your "about" page. I was going to do something similar with the python readability port[1] and Flask but hadn't got around to it. I am glad someone did, and did it far more impressively than I could have.

[1]https://github.com/gfxmonk/python-readability

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Try my weekend project: http://viewtext.org/article?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nytimes.com...

Very nice. Are you using a variation of the Arc90 readability algorithm or something else? Aha I just saw you talk about them in your "about" page. I was going to do something similar with the python readability port[1] and Flask but hadn't got around to it. I am glad someone did, and did it far more impressively than I could have. [1] https://github.com/gfxmonk/python-readability

Thanks! I took Readability and ported it over to C#. It's not an exact port as I don't have the DOM and some features of JavaScript in C#. It's using the same algorithm for most of it.

I did other things too, such as making RSS fees contain the full article, pull text from PDFs, rewrite links back through the reader...

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