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Netflix Takes Down Episode of Hasan Minhaj’s Show in Saudi Arabia

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Are you also going to renounce your citizen ship and leave the planet?

I renounce you at least. Bye

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Re: Netflix Takes Down Episode of Hasan Minhaj’s Show in Saudi Arabia

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That’s a bit different in the U.K. official parliament footage isn’t allowed to be used for satire or anything other than news reporting. This was more of a copyright claim than censorship. They could literarily have broadcast the same thing with muppets instead of the official footage and that would’ve been ok and a large part of wishes they had done just that. “We wanted to show you footage from the House of Common…

Is the law really from 1743? I mean, it can make sense, but I would find it interesting if the law was really that old

1628, at least, and, with some help from Samuel Johnson,

> In 1738 the Commons fought back, declaring that it was a "high indignity and a notorious breach of privilege" to report what was said in the Chamber, even when it was in recess. [0]

[0] https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofp...

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> political commentary sprinkled with humor. I think you're right about their shows, but both Hasan Minhaj and Samantha Bee are comedians, so why are we entrusting political commentary to comedians?

The same reason we trust it to anyone else. I’ve never understood the “he/she is a comedian therefore unfit to comment on serious matters.

I think we have all seen comedians shoehorn their version of values into their routine and come off unfunny and preachy. It turns out comedians write about what they think about. Even Carlin childed comedians who put their politics first. Its more a matter of You have to be funny First.

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>This was more of a copyright claim than censorship. Copyright claims that result in reduced access to media are censorship.

As someone who has lived under a dictatorship, there is a difference. Laws in "democratic" countries and dictatorships don't differ so much. The difference is how they are enforced and what recourse you as a citizen have. In a dictatorship, the government rules that a show/film/song violates the law. No one not willing to go to jail challenges it. In a democracy, you are free to post a rant or picket because you disa…

Free to rant and picket is not free. If your government does not represent its people, holding signs and yelling is not recourse.

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Hey, let's not overstep and say that dictators are "morally right" to stop free speech. Legally right, perhaps, but come now, Western democracies would laugh at saying decorators keeping peace is "moral". In fact, they'd argue the opposite. That dictators should morally step down and cede power to the people.

You are not in charge of “overstepping.” If dictators don’t stop free speech, a revolution will happen, and the country will go to shit. I have already given the precondition that the country is a dictatorship. We have the U.S.S.R., Arab Spring, and the French Revolution as fine examples of the country going to shit. If you’re a dictator and want to transition your country to democracy (I’m not sure why you’d call th…

If free speech means 'going to shit', by all means, pour it on.

Re: Netflix Takes Down Episode of Hasan Minhaj’s Show in Saudi Arabia

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I hadn't watched it but thanks to this I am gonna watch it now.

They don't care if you watch it, they care if people in Saudi Arabia watch it.

They only care that MBS shouldn't watch it or learns about it and get upset. Everything is low cost enough to make happen for that risk!

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Wall Street Journal says there were a record number of Shareholder lawsuits in 2017 for reasons including disappointing earnings. Nearly 10% of traded companies faced one that year. It kind of seems like “a thing.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-lawsuits-targeting-stock-dr... Edit: 2017, not this year

The number of filings is irrelevant: I can sue NASA for not building a space station on the moon, it doesn’t mean it won’t be thrown out. The article is paywalled so I can’t see if it reports the number that actually matters, i.e. wins.

From the same article: “Of cases filed from 1997 to 2016, according to Cornerstone, 48% have been settled, 42% have been dismissed and 10% are continuing.“ It later says median settlements range from $2.6 to $13.9 million depending on how far the suit gets and how established the firms are. Another interesting thing was that, recently, most of these suits come from individuals rather than institutional investors.

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You are not in charge of “overstepping.” If dictators don’t stop free speech, a revolution will happen, and the country will go to shit. I have already given the precondition that the country is a dictatorship. We have the U.S.S.R., Arab Spring, and the French Revolution as fine examples of the country going to shit. If you’re a dictator and want to transition your country to democracy (I’m not sure why you’d call th…

If free speech means 'going to shit', by all means, pour it on.

Ah, the "burn it all down" school of moral philosophy.

Re: Netflix Takes Down Episode of Hasan Minhaj’s Show in Saudi Arabia

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That’s a bit different in the U.K. official parliament footage isn’t allowed to be used for satire or anything other than news reporting. This was more of a copyright claim than censorship. They could literarily have broadcast the same thing with muppets instead of the official footage and that would’ve been ok and a large part of wishes they had done just that. “We wanted to show you footage from the House of Common…

> "This was more of a copyright claim than censorship." Why should taxpayer-funded creations be copyrighted? They should be in the public domain by default, like in the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_th...

The us also has special rules such as the fact you can't show photos or videos of the supreme court sessions.

This stuff is just generally odd.

Re: Netflix Takes Down Episode of Hasan Minhaj’s Show in Saudi Arabia

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First time I've heard of the show. I watched about 20 minutes ... pretty good. The style reminds me of Samantha B ... political commentary sprinkled with humor.

The style is very formulaic in my opinion. Find something outrageous someone said or did or contradicting themself, then say "that would be like if..." And make an extreme analogy usually with crude or sexual humor.

Personally, it's tiring and the information density is too low. And sometimes the logic of the analogy doesn't work, and they pretend the analogy proves something even though analogies never do, they can only be used to illustrate.

Oliver, Bee, all thr political comedy shows do the same thing. I can't figure out if I think Jon Stewart's show was better or if I was just younger and not tired of that style yet.

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