It's an experiment in hurting the good will of their brand.
I still use Firefox but it's painful sometimes. Not as painful as Chrome, but Mozilla seems determined to come up with unexpected new ways to fuck up Firefox for some reason.
Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment
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Re: Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment
#12A related thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18800360
Re: Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment
#13It's an experiment in hurting the good will of their brand. I still use Firefox but it's painful sometimes. Not as painful as Chrome, but Mozilla seems determined to come up with unexpected new ways to fuck up Firefox for some reason.
It's simple: $$$$$.
Every one of these actions is a short-term cash grab. The real amazing part is how privacy advocates let these transgressions, or what Mozilla calls "experiments", slide.
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#14how do these people convince themselves that the problem with ads is privacy and tracking? i use an ad blocker so that i _won’t see ads_.
I would happily pay a flat $50/month for an ad-free experience where content producers got paid for each of their pages I visit.
Google already offers something like this with Google Contributor. You load a fixed amount onto your ad-free pass, select which publishers you want to browse ad-free who have opted-in, and it will deduct a small amount (typically 1 - 4c) for each webpage you view ad-free.
The catch is, publishers don't seem to be signing up, presumably because they're making far more than 4c / pageview by showing ads to you. The publishers I added seem to have all abandoned the program long ago. I've been a member for over a year and have still only spent 6c.
Re: Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment
#15I hope they randomized it so they can measure the effect of ads on users quitting Firefox or reducing usage.
Re: Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment
#16Wow.
They keep using that word 'experiment' to mean 'I can run whatever code I want on an end user's computer' which is not right. It's an ad. You're pushing ads. It's not the worst thing in the world if you just call it what it is, but using the 'experiments' mechanism to push ads is scummy and to me a violation of trust.
I've been running Firefox inside of Firejail, a sandbox, lately, primarily as a light form of exploit mitigation, and I think maybe you should too, just in case Mozilla decides to experiment with attacking your computer as well.
I think today I'm going to experiment with QuteBrowser and some other more fringe browsers that are available for Linux.
Re: Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment
#17It's an experiment in hurting the good will of their brand. I still use Firefox but it's painful sometimes. Not as painful as Chrome, but Mozilla seems determined to come up with unexpected new ways to fuck up Firefox for some reason.
It's simple: $$$$$. Every one of these actions is a short-term cash grab. The real amazing part is how privacy advocates let these transgressions, or what Mozilla calls "experiments", slide.
Is there anything to suggest that this violated people's privacy? If not, I see no reason why privacy advocates should have a problem with it.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's simple: $$$$$. Every one of these actions is a short-term cash grab. The real amazing part is how privacy advocates let these transgressions, or what Mozilla calls "experiments", slide.
Is there anything to suggest that this violated people's privacy? If not, I see no reason why privacy advocates should have a problem with it.
Phoning home by default, necessary to display such "snippets" of course violates people’s privacy. That this is done not to pointlessly wish a happy new year but with commercial motives makes it even worse.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there anything to suggest that this violated people's privacy? If not, I see no reason why privacy advocates should have a problem with it.
Phoning home by default, necessary to display such "snippets" of course violates people’s privacy. That this is done not to pointlessly wish a happy new year but with commercial motives makes it even worse.
It's already phoning home to retrieve vital security updates, without which your privacy would be at much greater risk than Mozilla learning that a certain IP address uses Firefox.
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#20"It's not an ad" is such a fucking bullshit line. Why does anyone believe Mozilla is different than the others?