China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves • Hacker News Board

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by dang » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 7:35 AM UTC

porphyrogene wrote: post #19

simplecomplex wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UK has been doing the same thing for the last 10 years... https://www.wired.co.uk/article/face-recognition-police-uk-s...

Your ability to be blind to a challenge to your convictions is impressive in its own way.

Personal attacks, such as you posted here and in your comment upthread, are not allowed on HN and will get you banned here. Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome either.

Please edit these things out of your posts to HN and follow the site guidelines, even when someone else is breaking them.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by dang » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 7:35 AM UTC

Url changed from https://www.businessinsider.com/china-is-testing-creepy-dove..., which appears to be a shameful ripoff of this.

A reader helpfully emailed to point this out, but unfortunately we didn't see it until later.

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by tehlike » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 8:28 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #24

30 minutes on a battery charge. They're going to have to come up with some way for the birds to roost and recharge.

You mean, something like this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0tCZKAh4H5cS01HWTcxSnFQV2c... ?

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by qwerty456127 » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 8:54 AM UTC

Countries are turning into concentration camps more and more...

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by bassman9000 » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 11:31 AM UTC

intuitionist wrote: post #30

bassman9000 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US-China attempt to moral equivalence is getting tiring. Far from perfect, the US still has a vast superior Rule of Law, human/natural rights protection, open internet, and it's not imprisoning a million people in "reeducation camps".

No, it's imprisoning two million people in prisons.

You just made political or religious dissidence equivalent to murder, thieving, or tax evasion.

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by fit2rule » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 1:06 PM UTC

jhatax wrote: post #4

This made me think of the Black Mirror episode, Hated in the Nation (1). If a bad actor gets control over these drones, it can wreak havoc. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hated_in_the_Nation

I was taking a walk recently in a relatively industrial neighbourhood, around which were fields often buzzing with recreational/sport drone flyers (pushing us plane nerds to higher ground, naturally), and I have had the thought many times that there are already opportunities for bad actors to do things with drones in such places. The rec- flyers are but a hairs-width away from high drama, alas. RC/multi-rotor tech has just gotten incredibly high-performance, to a quite new market of people.. It will be interesting to see how much this drone tech will be canned.

Its all fun and games until someone weaponises it at mass scale.

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by fit2rule » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 1:08 PM UTC

singularity2001 wrote: post #29

Ray Kurzweil introduced the idea (to me) that aliens might roam and observe this planet in the form of insects.

And as octopus, perhaps dolphins, definitely tardigrades...

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by Wowfunhappy » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 2:06 PM UTC

jammygit wrote: post #34

chrisco255 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah for actual crimes not for talking shit about the Communist party or being Muslim or whatever the Chinese government is up to these days. In the U.S. you can talk all the shit you want about Trump, you're not gonna suffer legal consequences for it. Good luck protesting Xi Jinping in Shanghai.

Actual crimes like possession of marijuana?

And yet, use of Marijuana is becoming legal in more and more states because people the US have the right to protest and attempt to change laws they think are unnecessary or unjust. Try having that conversation in China.

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by jryle70 » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 5:09 PM UTC

simplecomplex wrote: post #2

Our daily anti-China clickbait! Oh but it looks like US Military was doing this first... "Yet China isn't the first place innovators have sought to build a device to resemble a bird: in 2013, the U.S. military acquired more than 30 drones from Florida-based Prioria Robotics, designed to look like birds of prey. "

Click-bait? That's from South China Morning Post, a Hong Kong newspaper that still tries to be independent from Beijing. Also, did you know that Chinese in mainland can't access this very article? since SCMP has been blocked in the mainland for several years?

Re: China takes surveillance to new heights with flock of robotic doves

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Post by Animats » Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 6:21 PM UTC

tehlike wrote: post #43

Animats wrote: post #24

30 minutes on a battery charge. They're going to have to come up with some way for the birds to roost and recharge.

You mean, something like this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0tCZKAh4H5cS01HWTcxSnFQV2c... ?

Wants a login.