Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)
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#52anecdotally, it feels like the tech elite are trying to outsmart the system (such as prepping for doomsday scenarios), rather than trying to improve the system to prevent, or lower the probability of the doomsday scenario in the first place
You definitely get more bang for your buck spending on yourself vs trying to change society.
That is true if you play within the tragedy of the commons scenario instead of trying to break out of it.
Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)
#53Related: The Surprisingly Solid Mathematical Case of the Tin Foil Hat Gun Prepper
https://medium.com/s/story/the-surprisingly-solid-mathematic...
Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)
#54Back in 2016 I followed Justin Kan on Snapchat and he used to hang out with Steve Huffman on his stories. I recall a few particular snap stories where they went out to Justin's new house and were shooting guns, throwing axes and generally doing fun outdoor stuff. I do seem to recall at some point there was talk about survivalist stuff in those snaps. I've done quite a lot of survival training with the US Government a…
> I've done quite a lot of survival training with the US Government and have been in places where people lived by those skills daily. I have to say that the majority of what these guys are doing, and what most "rich guy" survivalists do, as indicated by this story, is mostly worthless. Especially long term.
Exactly. Because eventually the diesel gas for the generators runs out so that your water filters don't work anymore. What do you do? Can these people dig a fountain without being buried alive during the process of digging? Can they tell where to dig? Do they know how to make a chariot/waggon for when their truck won't work anymore? (remember, you're out of gas). Do they know how to raise horses/cows?
Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)
#55It tells you about how super rich people think.
The fact that they share these doomsday beliefs implies that they understand that something is wrong with the system and maybe that they are responsible for it to begin with.
I don't understand the motivation for them to leak these stories to the news though. Do they expect regular people to feel sorry for them and that this will prevent or delay the doomsday?
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#56Why would a wealthy person trust something like the Survival Condo Project? Once SHTF and society collapses and rule of law goes away, what's to keep the armed guards from taking over and eliminating their formerly wealthy clients (or just locking the place down and refusing to let anyone in)? Why bother keeping a bunch of old (formerly) rich men around when the guards can just get rid of them and take their share of…
> Why bother keeping a bunch of old (formerly) rich men around when the guards can just get rid of them and take their share of the supplies to help ensure the survival of their own families and friends?
Nothing, really. Back when Western society was in a state of feudal anarchy (mostly after the dissolution of the Carolingian empire and up to the late 1100s) the monied people (which meant mostly the traders) had no power at all, in the words of Adalberon, bishop of Laon [1], "the whole edifice of mankind" was supported by "oratores, bellatores, laboratores", that is by the clergy ("oratores"), by the "warriors", i.e. nobles who could go to war at any one moment, and by the common people, the peasants, the people doing the actual work. The monied people were nowhere to be seen and treated quote contemptuously by the "oratores" and the "bellatores".
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adalberon_(bishop_of_Laon)
Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)
#57I wish more people understood Doomsday prepping is really more of a hobby than an actual concern over the total collapse of all civilization. It’s fun to prepare, and to think of every scenario no matter how outlandish, and it’s fun to make people think you are super serious about something that seems ridiculous to them. It is like a game where you collect as many resources and skills to increase your survival score…
I'm literally a national champion at a ridiculous hobby, so I feel pretty confident that many of these people are actually super serious. People get way invested in stupid shit all the time.
Please share the ridiculous hobby!
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
You definitely get more bang for your buck spending on yourself vs trying to change society.
That is true if you play within the tragedy of the commons scenario instead of trying to break out of it.
Correct, if everyone in society didn't graze the metaphorical commons, then your happiness would be even higher still.
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#59I cannot fathom the logic here. Movers and shakers who shape the world pissing away resources on some kind of personal "insurance" if everything goes to hell instead of investing in making sure things don't go to hell. If they put half as much time, money, thought and effort into fixing some of the glaring boils on the butt of the world, they could stop metaphorically sucking their billion dollar thumbs this way. The…
I find your argument compelling, and IMO you should not be scared to get banned from HN for that kind of comment. It‘s actually in line with many other comments here. I too feel that there are not enough women commenting here. The discussions would be more complete and interesting if that wasn’t the case. We obviously only get a half of the picture without female participation. It’s offtopic, but since you asked for…
Being highly controversial/polarizing does often help growing an audience,
Yeah, I keep hearing that. That hasn't worked for me. I get three things out of it:
1. Banned from multiple forums.
2. All the utter and complete loonies who think I can fix them or will be their one true love cyberstalk me but won't fucking admit it, so it doesn't even get my stuff promoted.
3. I've spent years living in fear of being literally locked up in an insane asylum and thereby killed, like Semmelweis, because the most controversial detail about me is that I have atypical cystic fibrosis and I'm drug free. It's managed with diet and lifestyle, so obviously, I'm insane and making shit up. A former homemaker can't possibly have solved a problem that all the fucking elite MALE doctors and scientist of the planet can't solve, no. Clearly.
Among other things, I've spent a lot of years trying to figure out how to stop being a train wreck waiting to happen.
I'm really not interested in growing an audience of people getting out the popcorn to watch the lunatic entertain them with her nutty tirades. We can listen to billionaires do that. I'd like a fucking middle class life and to be taken seriously, which is obviously just asking way the fuck too much of the goddamn world.
Anyway, I know that doesn't sound like gratitude. I do actually appreciate you replying. But, unfortunately, no, being controversial is not some means for me, personally, to grow an audience and make money. It's just not.
Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)
#60When society falls apart the rich won’t have anything that the poor won’t. The people who built these bunkers for the super rich are going to put a 9mm in the back of their head and invite their brother Steve to take the owners spot. “Combination locks on the food supply?” Waterboard the guy till he gives us the combo, then kill him.
This could be solved with resource access requiring multiparty agreement, like the Bitcoin multisignature wallets: the location that contains the food and water for a week requires permission from 2 parties that are located in 2 separate geographical locations
Apologies for the snark, but only on HN would anyone seriously suggest blockchain as a solution to having a gun pointed at your head.