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Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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post #18

I find it laughable that the rich think they can hide away forever in some bunker. If they are in that position it means the rule of law has eroded and anarchy is in place. The first thing pissed off people do is hang their leaders and the children of the rich. Rightfully so, nothing more than parasites on our human race, take their wealth and redistribute it to those in need.

If society really does collapse, if they can survive for the first 6 months, there will be a lot fewer people to deal with, and they may be able to gain some power through trade, assuming they have enough manpower to protect their supplies.

It wouldn't be hard for a wealthy person to stockpile years worth of food so as long as they can stay out of site, they could stay holed up for years until the big die-off is over and some semblance of order is restored. Of course, finding a place in the new order is not guaranteed.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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These guys (and Women?) are at the extreme end of the economic and social hierarchy. The only thing that might endanger their position is if society collapses. Prepping is sort of an insurance policy against the long odds of society collapsing. All societies have collapsed and once the process starts it can happen quickly. They can devote the resources to guard against rare events, because they are already protected…

It's convenient when they advertise this in the media, for the roving bands to target them and their stuff.

what if they are advertising as a decoy?

"Of course I will be in a bunker community in Omaha" when actually they are in the middle of the Pacific on an island owned by a series of shell companies..

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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post #19

Their cover photo is a joke if you have even the slightest idea of what you’re looking at. Double stacked D&H mags with no pulls, an Anderson “poverty pony” AR, BUIS behind a 1.5x ACOG on an 18” with a cheap non-QD Mount (iron sights with a magnified optic in between doesn’t work)... I’m sure there is more. But... for the Steve Huffman and similar types, they’ll just see what they want. The real joke would be Randy a…

> The real joke would be Randy and his $999 AR (with optic) will just rob Steve-types blind the second there is a without rule of law scenario. I've always wondered how they'd prevent that. How does Randy not shoot Steve or take him hostage and then bring his own family into the compound. I am sure there are a few schemes, ranging from benign like promise a huge payday at the end, lots of land, resources, power whate…

what about some kind of heart attack implant that could be triggered remotely? I would think someone out there might just sign up for that for $5 mil.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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Perhaps YC’s Sam can chime in with his reasoning of prepping a loaded gun, and private jet to New Zealand.[0]

Also, if he could chime in with any advice he has to make sure that the hired armed guards don’t turn on him. Perhaps disciplinary collars or controlling the food supply?[1]

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-val...

[1] https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef...

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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I cannot fathom the logic here. Movers and shakers who shape the world pissing away resources on some kind of personal "insurance" if everything goes to hell instead of investing in making sure things don't go to hell.

If they put half as much time, money, thought and effort into fixing some of the glaring boils on the butt of the world, they could stop metaphorically sucking their billion dollar thumbs this way.

There is plenty of evidence that a lot of the financial distress in the US of the masses is rooted in a lack of genuinely affordable housing -- and, no, I don't mean poverty housing. In 2010, an architect coined the term "missing middle housing" to describe middle class housing historically widely available in walkable urban neighborhoods that we have largely zoned out of existence. In the last roughly fifty years, we've torn down a million SRO's in this country.

Health care. We need a single payer system. The ACA is not a great solution. It was just the most politically viable. Frankly, that sucks.

This country already has a system where you flash an ID and get care and there is minimal paperwork and almost no billing. It's well-established and well-developed, but it only serves military members, retirees and their dependents. We don't need to look to other countries and wonder how they do "free" medical care. We have a system on US soil doing that.

Research shows that proper medical coverage helps reduce homelessness. If you provide proper medical coverage and make appropriate housing available to the masses at a reasonable cost, then we can stop living in dread of the collapse of civilization.

I blog, but I have no audience and can get no traction. If rich guys in SV propose ridiculous solutions, like UBI, they get interviews and yadda and everyone takes it seriously, though they aren't actually particularly qualified to propose some solution and it looks to me like BS preening. I feel like if I say too much on such subjects, I risk being banned from HN because I'm just a woman, I'm quite poor and I was homeless for years and yadda. If rich people who haven't actually studied it say something, it's charity or kindness of some nonsense like that. I've actually studied this stuff, but if I say something, it's "political" because I'm not the right kind of people and Hacker News eschews politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_room_occupancy

https://streetlifesolutions.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-missing...

I've redacted multiple paragraphs of "Doreen is finally snapping after 9.5 years of being essentially shunned and yadda."

Could someone kindly tell me where and how I can successfully get an audience and some kind of engagement, in spite of being the wrong gender and the wrong socioeconomic class? I would be happy to just go the fuck away and leave you folks alone who clearly want nothing to do with me if I could find some means to get engagement elsewhere.

Thanks.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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post #4

A couple of years ago I applied for a job at Hipmunk and ended interviewing with Steve, then the CTO. I don’t remember everything but at some point he did ask me to write a program that prints out a spiral. Reading this article, and remembering that interview, made me realize that no one can really know what the collapse of civilization will look like, but it is always good to be prepared with a two dimensional array…

Clearly the spiral algorithm is useful when you forgot where you buried your survival cache.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

#37
Why would a wealthy person trust something like the Survival Condo Project? Once SHTF and society collapses and rule of law goes away, what's to keep the armed guards from taking over and eliminating their formerly wealthy clients (or just locking the place down and refusing to let anyone in)?

Why bother keeping a bunch of old (formerly) rich men around when the guards can just get rid of them and take their share of the supplies to help ensure the survival of their own families and friends?

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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First thing I notice in the article...(prob) an ex-military man with automatic weapons serving as a guard. In a doomsday scenario he will, eventually, kill or enslave all those nerdy guys that paid a fortune to seeking shelter there. But then you have everything else and buying these things are a drop in the bucket. Makes sense even if it has a very small chance of happening. What's an extra billion going to do to St…

Douglas Rushkoff had a podcast where he talked about being paid by these guys to come up with ways to keep their armed guards from turning on them. The billionaires suggested shocker collars (maybe even with explosives) and controlling the food supply by a combination lock.

https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef...

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

#39
When society falls apart the rich won’t have anything that the poor won’t. The people who built these bunkers for the super rich are going to put a 9mm in the back of their head and invite their brother Steve to take the owners spot. “Combination locks on the food supply?” Waterboard the guy till he gives us the combo, then kill him.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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> But in recent years survivalism has expanded to more affluent quarters, taking root in Silicon Valley and New York City, among technology executives, hedge-fund managers, and others in their economic cohort.

Rich people being paranoid and preparing for disasters is not exactly a new thing. I guess we are supposed to believe that the affluent are somehow more sane than the rest of us.

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