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Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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I wish more people understood Doomsday prepping is really more of a hobby than an actual concern over the total collapse of all civilization. It’s fun to prepare, and to think of every scenario no matter how outlandish, and it’s fun to make people think you are super serious about something that seems ridiculous to them. It is like a game where you collect as many resources and skills to increase your survival score…

Plus, actually trying out outdoors skills can be fun.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

#12
These guys (and Women?) are at the extreme end of the economic and social hierarchy. The only thing that might endanger their position is if society collapses. Prepping is sort of an insurance policy against the long odds of society collapsing. All societies have collapsed and once the process starts it can happen quickly. They can devote the resources to guard against rare events, because they are already protected against other concerns (they mostly have plenty of money).

IMO, this type of behavior is the same as the bio-hacking crowd trying to beat aging / maximize health. They have everything else covered, so they move out further-and-further on the tail of their perceived threat.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

#13
Back in 2016 I followed Justin Kan on Snapchat and he used to hang out with Steve Huffman on his stories.

I recall a few particular snap stories where they went out to Justin's new house and were shooting guns, throwing axes and generally doing fun outdoor stuff. I do seem to recall at some point there was talk about survivalist stuff in those snaps.

I've done quite a lot of survival training with the US Government and have been in places where people lived by those skills daily. I have to say that the majority of what these guys are doing, and what most "rich guy" survivalists do, as indicated by this story, is mostly worthless. Especially long term.

There's a hat tip to the most important part, forming groups and all the rest of the community building work, which is not inappropriate, but it's missing the point where you basically do that now with a diverse set of people - not just your rich friends - which is actually a sustainable strategy.

There's a lot to nitpick here but I guess the most interesting thing to me is that, for all their wealth, access and smarts, none of these people seem to actually be trying to solve the systematic and endemic problems which would soften the blow of a major existential risk.

In that sense Levchin and Johnson are 100% on the money here with investing in structural improvement, not some temporary escape plan that doesn't survive first contact with a handful of real actual killers.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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First thing I notice in the article...(prob) an ex-military man with automatic weapons serving as a guard. In a doomsday scenario he will, eventually, kill or enslave all those nerdy guys that paid a fortune to seeking shelter there.

But then you have everything else and buying these things are a drop in the bucket. Makes sense even if it has a very small chance of happening. What's an extra billion going to do to Steve Ballmer life? Nothing. Money after a while loses value, living is another matter.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

#17

Their cover photo is a joke if you have even the slightest idea of what you’re looking at. Double stacked D&H mags with no pulls, an Anderson “poverty pony” AR, BUIS behind a 1.5x ACOG on an 18” with a cheap non-QD Mount (iron sights with a magnified optic in between doesn’t work)... I’m sure there is more. But... for the Steve Huffman and similar types, they’ll just see what they want. The real joke would be Randy a…

Former combat zone contractor here: I would bet $20 that tacticool guy in the photo wishes so hard he had actually been hired as PSD by blackwater or triple canopy in 2005. Instead he probably ended up running logistics for the dfac at KAF.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

#18
I find it laughable that the rich think they can hide away forever in some bunker.

If they are in that position it means the rule of law has eroded and anarchy is in place.

The first thing pissed off people do is hang their leaders and the children of the rich.

Rightfully so, nothing more than parasites on our human race, take their wealth and redistribute it to those in need.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

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Their cover photo is a joke if you have even the slightest idea of what you’re looking at. Double stacked D&H mags with no pulls, an Anderson “poverty pony” AR, BUIS behind a 1.5x ACOG on an 18” with a cheap non-QD Mount (iron sights with a magnified optic in between doesn’t work)... I’m sure there is more. But... for the Steve Huffman and similar types, they’ll just see what they want. The real joke would be Randy a…

> The real joke would be Randy and his $999 AR (with optic) will just rob Steve-types blind the second there is a without rule of law scenario.

I've always wondered how they'd prevent that. How does Randy not shoot Steve or take him hostage and then bring his own family into the compound.

I am sure there are a few schemes, ranging from benign like promise a huge payday at the end, lots of land, resources, power whatever to more sinister ones, like hire another Randy (possible a lot more than one) to watch the first one if he (she) tries to do something.

Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (2017)

#20

anecdotally, it feels like the tech elite are trying to outsmart the system (such as prepping for doomsday scenarios), rather than trying to improve the system to prevent, or lower the probability of the doomsday scenario in the first place

> rather than trying to improve the system to prevent, or lower the probability of the doomsday scenario in the first place

I’m not sure Sillicon Valley billionaire can do much too save the earth from collapsing.

It’s not about rich changing the world to save it, it’s about the world monetary system , capitalism and thermo-industrial economy that has climax and is now going to end.

Hence , every society has cycles. Roman era disappeared, Vikings disappeared etc... this society will disappear as well and let something new come.

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