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Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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In the UK Gatwick and Heathrow airports have been there for a generation. By this I mean that the vast majority of people moved to their noise-affected houses knowing the airport was there already. Do these people deserve our sympathy? Initially i find it hard to be charitable towards them. In my local town there is a pub that has been there for around 600 years. A particularly pushy person moved in next door, compla…

Sure, an airport may have been there, but, in Boston at least, technology changes have made it so that if you are in the flight path, you have a much higher frequency of planes overhead. See the traffic from runway 33L at Logan airport as an example: https://www.universalhub.com/comment/559152#comment-559152 Basically, flights used to have diverse paths, so you would hear a plane occasionally. And so would everyone e…

How recent? (Ex last year, last decade?)

Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, an airport may have been there, but, in Boston at least, technology changes have made it so that if you are in the flight path, you have a much higher frequency of planes overhead. See the traffic from runway 33L at Logan airport as an example: https://www.universalhub.com/comment/559152#comment-559152 Basically, flights used to have diverse paths, so you would hear a plane occasionally. And so would everyone e…

How recent? (Ex last year, last decade?)

> The green lines are flight paths from before the implementation of the new technology (January 2013). The red lines are flight paths from after the implementation of the new technology (January 2015).

Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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In San Diego the airport is right downtown. Many people are pretty much gauranteed to be dealing with airplane noise regardless of the routes taken to land. Of course La Jolla is probably the most expensive area in San Diego. Should we route the airplanes around them? Lol. I mean you can't move the airports and most people can't move their houses so it feels like this is mostly a structural issue. And to me more dire…

You definitely can move the airport. San Diego has considered moving several times already.

Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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post #18

In San Diego the airport is right downtown. Many people are pretty much gauranteed to be dealing with airplane noise regardless of the routes taken to land. Of course La Jolla is probably the most expensive area in San Diego. Should we route the airplanes around them? Lol. I mean you can't move the airports and most people can't move their houses so it feels like this is mostly a structural issue. And to me more dire…

Vegas has it's airport close to the strip (and some residential burbs) but there seem to be little noise issues.

Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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I am curious why this wasn't just an app. What's the point of having a physical button other than for aesthetic gratification? If you had an app, it'd be more than just one click, but it'd only be like three "clicks" or steps. You'd have to unlock your phone, open the app, and click a button. Three steps instead of one. Not sure if that warrants a physical button.

Edit: I get why pressing a physical button is therapeutic, but even an app could play some audio when you pressed the button. These people are pretty pissed off when they click these buttons, because nobody is happy when they're complaining about noise pollution. An app could even play a voice-acted "fuck you, " when you click the button in the app. There are about 15,000 airports in the US. You could pay 150 people $10 each to say "fuck you " in an angry, cathartic voice. Each person would only have to say 100 lines.

Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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Just wondering if these devices are only issued to people who had houses in that area before the airport was built. IMO if you knowingly purchase a residence under a flight path, you lose any privilege of complaining about the noise. Modern aviation is already far quieter, and there are plenty of regulations in place to minimise the noise footprint (e.g. modern fanjet engines are far quieter than the older turbojets,…

IMO if you knowingly purchase a residence under a flight path, you lose any privilege of complaining about the noise. It's not just about knowingly purchasing a home under a flight path, it's also about the commitments made by airports and airlines. For example, an excessive noise event may be caused by a pilot not following a proper noise abatement procedure. And while airplanes have gotten quieter over the last 30…

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Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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A small part of my job (air force) is taking noise complaints. I find their rate has absolutely nothing to do with actual noise. It is all about time of day. A rainy tuesday afternoon: we can land on a roof without complaint from the owners. But on a sunny saturday evening, suddenly the same flight pattern we have flown for years without issue starts my phone ringing. Standard, honest, responses: 1) Civilian air traf…

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Re: Button offers instant gratification for those plagued by airplane noise

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In San Diego the airport is right downtown. Many people are pretty much gauranteed to be dealing with airplane noise regardless of the routes taken to land. Of course La Jolla is probably the most expensive area in San Diego. Should we route the airplanes around them? Lol. I mean you can't move the airports and most people can't move their houses so it feels like this is mostly a structural issue. And to me more dire…

Sats have wild accuracy shifts and depend heavily on the plane being fully operational. Ultimately what you end up with sats anyway is list of waypoints, not anything dynamic, and it can be done with radar as well.

> Sats have wild accuracy shifts and depend heavily on the plane being fully operational.

Who is routinely flying planes that aren't fully operational?

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