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Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by kbrisso »

sethdj wrote: post #40
Trisell wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in my area Century Link business is the only isp I can get at my house that doesnt come with a data cap. Both CenturyLink home and our cable provider have data caps that are enforced. And working from home along with Netflix and YouTube blow me through the 80gb limit every month. Causing me to have to raise my plan. And I’m not paying $200 a month for unlimited bandwidth.

Your cable options have an 80gb limit?! WTF!! Comcast has data caps (which is stupid) but it's 1TB and I think my 7 person household has only passed the halfway mark once, so it's meh. But 80GB?! That's insane! Destiny 2 is an 80GB download itself.

Comcast business doesn't have caps, I pay about $90 a month.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

noir_lord wrote: post #64
sethdj wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your cable options have an 80gb limit?! WTF!! Comcast has data caps (which is stupid) but it's 1TB and I think my 7 person household has only passed the halfway mark once, so it's meh. But 80GB?! That's insane! Destiny 2 is an 80GB download itself.

Seems strange how bad ISP's are in the US compared to the UK. I can get 400/35 Fiber to the Home with no datacap (no throttling either) for £54 a month (~$70).

Broadband in the US varies wildly - I'm paying $85 (~ £67) for an 800/800 fiber connection, but I am in a market where Comcast and Centurylink are slugging it out, so we have much better offerings than many parts of the country.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by jsjohnst »

wlesieutre wrote: post #68
AckSyn wrote: post #44

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This is why amazes me. At my home we blow through on average 25 GB a day in gaming, streaming video, other downloads etc. limits like these are terrible. 80 a month? Wtf?!

25 GB a day? Are you streaming 4K?

I live alone and use 50-100 gb/day on days I’m home all day, so 25gb/day isn’t that much.

I cut cable TV years ago and exclusively stream. I like having the TV on for background noise when home, even though I’m usually not actively watching it the whole time, and you’d be surprised how fast one can chew through data usage. I usually use around 1.5TB a month when you factor in offsite backups.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by steveklabnik »

throw0u1t wrote: post #110
josephg wrote: post #109

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Yes; although in GC’ed languages like Go and JS it’s still very easy to leak OS level resources like file handles because you still need to remember to close() them. (Although go’s defer blocks are a fantastic assist here). This is one area Rust really excels - the same mechanism for making sure memory gets cleaned up also automatically closes network sockets and file descriptors when they go out of scope. Even in th…

You're talking about the Drop trait? I'm learning Rust coming from Go. It looks cool, but it also concerns me how most data structures in the stdlib use unsafe blocks to defeat the borrow checker. This is not the point of Rust, I would have thought?!

One of the criteria for belonging in the standard library is “needs a lot of unsafe to implement”, so the standard library has more unsafe code than your average codebase.

Beyond that, to some degree, it is the point of Rust: limit unsafe things so that you can reason about them more easily. The CPU is inherently not safe, so it has to exist on some level. rust gives you tools to manage this.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by heyjudy »

Shocking that

a. There was no error monitoring.

b. That a SPoF existed.

c. That it wasn't found sooner.

The FCC, with their Verizon lackey Ajit Pai, should fine them $100 million bucks to get their attention, but they won't because corporate welfare.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by xyzzyz »

toufiqbarhamov wrote: post #73
jonathankoren wrote: post #72

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What's really strange is how the crappy broadband is continuously justified in the US.

Replace “broadband” with everything from education and healthcare, through infrastructure and a dozen other words, and you’re still right. I don’t understand it either.

Education and healthcare are of high quality in the US, generally speaking. They are just super expensive.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by X-Istence »

rebyn wrote: post #107
ams6110 wrote: post #96

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Any option to host your docker stuff on a VPS or other system that isn't using your home internet connection?

I think he/she uses Docker as a development tool on his machine, with volumes and everything.

Yep, this isn't about hosting docker containers or the end result, but doing development work/tearing down/setting up test environments and things of that nature.

It is surprising how big docker containers get after a while.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by mr_toad »

cptskippy wrote: post #66
CydeWeys wrote: post #30

I was visiting my SO's parents in Portland for the holidays when this happened. Their cable TV stopped working for at least two days and we all got an emergency services text with the local emergency number because 911 wasn't going to work. (At least their Internet through CenturyLink remained working.) This also happened to coincide with them receiving a notice of a $50/month increase on their bill from CenturyLink,…

> This is what happens when you treat IT like a cost center and don't provide the necessary funds to tackle technical debt and keep your services up and running: Especially now with cordcutting becoming the norm and traditional cable subscription number dropping, large providers are scrambling to find ways to extract profit. With the rise of streaming, peering arrangements are more lopsided than ever and ISPs are act…

> With the rise of streaming, peering arrangements are more lopsided than ever and ISPs are actually having to pay for their own internet access.

Don’t most ISPs cache this sort of content closer to their customers? Netflix at least offers to install hardware that does this.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by tomjakubowski »

jandrese wrote: post #31
CydeWeys wrote: post #30

I was visiting my SO's parents in Portland for the holidays when this happened. Their cable TV stopped working for at least two days and we all got an emergency services text with the local emergency number because 911 wasn't going to work. (At least their Internet through CenturyLink remained working.) This also happened to coincide with them receiving a notice of a $50/month increase on their bill from CenturyLink,…

Honestly, if you had FiOS as an option why would you stay with CenturyLink in the first place? Verizon is just as assholish, but at least they can deliver.

FiOS in some parts of the country (including, I think, Oregon) is now run by Frontier, who are nowhere near Verizon's competence.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Post by blattimwind »

xyzzyz wrote: post #116
toufiqbarhamov wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace “broadband” with everything from education and healthcare, through infrastructure and a dozen other words, and you’re still right. I don’t understand it either.

Education and healthcare are of high quality in the US, generally speaking. They are just super expensive.

The Radio Eriwan joke writes itself.
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