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Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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That $100 per year is required just to keep apps installed on your own iDevices, let alone submitting them for review.

That hasn’t been true since XCode 7. You can side load apps onto your own devices from XCode with a free developer account, you only have to pay the fee to submit apps to the App Store.

You cannot "keep apps installed on your own iDevices" because without paying that fee, you have to re-sign and reinstall your apps every week.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Aaaand flagged of the front page, what just by score and would would probably still sit firmly at the #1 spot it shot to. What's a valid reason to do that, rather than clicking "hide" and just ignore the story if you personally don't care about it? Sure, I'd also prefer an article, that maybe contains this and other things as examples. But the discussion can be in that spirit regardless -- and who who will that artic…

I wonder if Google (and most large companies) has PR employees whose job it is to flag stuff like this.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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post #39

For those of you wondering, it appears that the company mentioned in the article, GreenLionSoft [1], develops apps that show public transportation schedules in Spain, at least as of 2017 [2]. Their Google Play page still exists in some places but has been cleared of all apps [3]. I can't find Pablo A. Martinez's personal developer account; the closest match is com.pablomartinez, which belongs (belonged?) to a law for…

> It'll make your case stronger the case to whom? the primary message from the post is that there is likely no human being who will look at this again (and based on the robotic 24h + 1min timestamp on the email, the question is whether one ever did in the first place).

Google certainly re-looks at cases which make the front page.

They're quite strict on the 'if you've been banned and you use another account, we'll ban that one too', so that's the reason for the recent termination. Sometimes it takes months for them to link together accounts like this, because they gradually accumulate evidence like signing apk's with the same key, or logging into the console from the same IP addresses.

The old account I would bet had something shady on it. For example, an ad-clicker or rooting tools.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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As someone who has built and published apps on both major platforms, this issue of not being able to speak to someone is a problem on the Apple platform as well (as on Googles). As mentioned in the article, it’s heart wrenching to receive an email saying there is a problem with your app and know that the app or the release you worked so hard on might not get published. Having a release rejected can also be as bad as…

I'd believe I'd rather just have a secure platform that's open to any apps, no gatekeepers. Kind of like the web. Almost anyone can make an website and no gatekeeper gets in the way. We mostly trust the browsers are secure (or at least I trust Chrome to be secure, maybe Firefox too soon). I feel like iOS in particular could already do this. They could just let users install apps from anywhere and then do their best t…

>I feel like iOS in particular could already do this.

And give publishers like Amazon, Netflix, Spotify, and similar the ability to offer in-app purchases that bypass Apple’s 30% cut? Never gonna happen.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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post #39

For those of you wondering, it appears that the company mentioned in the article, GreenLionSoft [1], develops apps that show public transportation schedules in Spain, at least as of 2017 [2]. Their Google Play page still exists in some places but has been cleared of all apps [3]. I can't find Pablo A. Martinez's personal developer account; the closest match is com.pablomartinez, which belongs (belonged?) to a law for…

Perhaps they consider this sort of app a direct competitor to Google maps?

This sort of app is quite common and serves a distinct, specialized purpose, so I doubt that. Additionally, Google doesn’t generally remove apps that compete with their own; it’s Apple that does that.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It'll make your case stronger the case to whom? the primary message from the post is that there is likely no human being who will look at this again (and based on the robotic 24h + 1min timestamp on the email, the question is whether one ever did in the first place).

Google certainly re-looks at cases which make the front page. They're quite strict on the 'if you've been banned and you use another account, we'll ban that one too', so that's the reason for the recent termination. Sometimes it takes months for them to link together accounts like this, because they gradually accumulate evidence like signing apk's with the same key, or logging into the console from the same IP addres…

Should they really be linking personal accounts with reputable commercial accounts, though? What if one of your developers who has access to the commercial account has published something shady on their personal account?

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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post #39

For those of you wondering, it appears that the company mentioned in the article, GreenLionSoft [1], develops apps that show public transportation schedules in Spain, at least as of 2017 [2]. Their Google Play page still exists in some places but has been cleared of all apps [3]. I can't find Pablo A. Martinez's personal developer account; the closest match is com.pablomartinez, which belongs (belonged?) to a law for…

> It'll make your case stronger the case to whom? the primary message from the post is that there is likely no human being who will look at this again (and based on the robotic 24h + 1min timestamp on the email, the question is whether one ever did in the first place).

To the audience (us). Our perception of the article has the potential to affect our choices in the future.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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post #92

Aaaand flagged of the front page, what just by score and would would probably still sit firmly at the #1 spot it shot to. What's a valid reason to do that, rather than clicking "hide" and just ignore the story if you personally don't care about it? Sure, I'd also prefer an article, that maybe contains this and other things as examples. But the discussion can be in that spirit regardless -- and who who will that artic…

I wonder if Google (and most large companies) has PR employees whose job it is to flag stuff like this.

You wonder? I thought that was just common knowledge?

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google has the ability to just nuke a company from orbit on a whim, and I'm not sure anybody can do anything about it. And that's why you don't build that critical point of failure into your product, even if it's harder and more expensive to do it another way. Which, sadly, means don't build your company around an Android app. They can do this to your personal Google account, too. What are the repercussions, to mos…

> Hint: What's the recovery email address for all of your random online services? hey_$service_dont_spam_me@my_domain.com > What's your personal contact email for work, taxation my_name@my_domain.com I always thought of gmail like gmx.net or something, it's where people who don't know internet things could get free email. I figured it's a good way to test the waters, I also had free email long before I had a domain..…

I'd like to do this, but I'm hesitant to give up the convenience of things like Google spam filters or the tools Google software like Inbox or Calendar give me, specifically when they're tied to my email.
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