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How the Valley treats experienced people

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Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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Ageism is real in many verticals. It is healthy to acknowledge that. It’s equally important to face facts related to age: I am noticeably less focusable, and my memory is not as good. I slowly become less fluent in adopting new tech, and it shows (or feels). Most importantly, I have many out of work responsibilities - parents (not getting younger) and kids (not getting older in sufficient pace). Consequently, odds of…

You are arguing that, as an older employee, you actually are worth less?

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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If one thinks 35+ is to old to code, well I have news for you. At 35+ you learn how to manage time and prioritize better. Life throws another ranch in your bucket of problems, marriage and children. When you are young, you are hired as an engineer to work 40 hours, which we all know very well that working for startups that means 80 hours or you are not putting good effort. Well with a family that’s not possible, as y…

I'm 34, left my 7 years relation two years ago, am gay and never thought I could have kids and am not planning on having kids any time soon. This kind of thinking about that the traits that one develops with age and experience only come about with raising a family kind of worries me, I have a pretty good idea on what I'm missing on since absolutely all my good friends from university and most of my close friends from…

It makes me sad that someone feels like they need to justify not being able to work 80 hours per week.

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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I think you don't understand the math here. If you are in your 20s, single, and making six figures, you can rent an apartment with three other people in the bay and pay like 1-1.5k in rent and it's quite nice because you have so much extra capital to spend on top of saving. And there are things to spend it on here. Heck many in their thirties do this.

Meanwhile in the south you can make those same six figures and have a 5 bedroom house with a mortgage of 1.5k Or live in a nice area for 800 a month. Or live in a shit area for 400. SV math does not work out. You are taxed to much. Pay to high rent and have the pleasure of needing a shit map to walk in your city. I keep seeing this same argument about getting to pay 1.5k to live with a bunch of other people to save s…

Very few people in the South are making 6 figs out of college, even fewer are able to save six figures a year out of college. People in the bay can do that.

And that assumes you want a 5 bedroom house, I have zero interest in that right now. Too much space to take care of. Why would I do that?

And why would I go somewhere with fewer things to do. I attend social events 2-3 times a week. I've checked elsewhere, that would drop to 2x a month in Atlanta and less in a less populated area, unless I picked up more hobbies.

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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I made the move to the Bay Area with a family in my 30s. It’s not perfect, but we’re saving dramatically more than we could anywhere else. I don’t know how long we’ll stay, but at this rate 5 years would be enough to set us up really well almost anywhere else in the US. I wish I’d gotten into software sooner. If you come out here at 22, live with roommates and stay until you’re 30, you probably take anywhere from $40…

Spending your entire life as a young adult doing that sounds dystopian. May that never become the norm.

Living in San Francisco, working at a big 5 tech company really isn't that bad. Even the "worst" of the bunch on the work life balance scale, only do around 60 hours a week. Most of them just do the standard 40 hrs a week, though.

So it really isn't giving up your youth or anything. And many young people even enjoy the city of San Francisco. It is a big city. Lots of stuff for young people to do...

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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I'm one of those people who doesn't have to work, but I do because I enjoy it. I moved to the silicon valley nine years ago, and in that time I've done half a dozen or so job interviews. I got no offers, so now I run my own company. It was different story each time, but the upshot (IMHO) is that the interview process seemed to assume that I was a fresh-out undergrad. In one case, they asked me to debug some Ruby code…

> There was one notable exception, and that was my experience with Triplebyte. They have a much better technical interview process than any I have seen anywhere else This looks just like an Ad I see on reddit all over the place.

for what it’s worth i did triplebyte as well and it was actually a really good interview process. I didn’t end up accepting an offer from any of their companies but I thought they asked very practical things instead of just algorithms.

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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I'm talking about the US and being an able-bodied adult.

The US is one of the least egalitarian of developed nations.

Maybe it's because the intelligent families have already risen to the top in the US but not in the other countries.

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post #196

I'm one of those people who doesn't have to work, but I do because I enjoy it. I moved to the silicon valley nine years ago, and in that time I've done half a dozen or so job interviews. I got no offers, so now I run my own company. It was different story each time, but the upshot (IMHO) is that the interview process seemed to assume that I was a fresh-out undergrad. In one case, they asked me to debug some Ruby code…

Yeah, gig to hire works great for my small tech company.

Gig to hire doesn't work if the job market is hot enough that potential employees have full-time job offers in addition to your gig-to-hire offer. I've been able to gig-to-hire for offshore developers, but never for onshore.

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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post #36

Ageism is real in many verticals. It is healthy to acknowledge that. It’s equally important to face facts related to age: I am noticeably less focusable, and my memory is not as good. I slowly become less fluent in adopting new tech, and it shows (or feels). Most importantly, I have many out of work responsibilities - parents (not getting younger) and kids (not getting older in sufficient pace). Consequently, odds of…

slowly become less fluent in adopting new tech, and it shows For me, it's the exact opposite. Containers? Oh yeah, they're just like zones on Solaris. Kubernetes? Works like a VAXcluster. Cloud? Been there, done that, let's not make the same mistakes. ML? Well we used to call it predictive statistics, the only real difference now is we run it on GPU not CPU. I pick up "new" techs easily because I can step back and se…

That bit on the VAX is... interesting. It's been a while, and it was a lot more about hard partitioning, but it makes sense.

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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There are any number of talent pools that are overlooked because of widespread discrimination.

To win, you need to behave in a more rational way than the competition, which means discarding irrational biases and looking for help in places that others undervalue and disregard.

Re: How the Valley treats experienced people

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I've heard this before, but there is something to be said about the difference between someone having kids at the start of their careers when they have little to no savings, and several years (hell, a decade) into their careers when they have high paying jobs with good stay-at-home policy, lots of money in the bank, perhaps a house. I grew up in situation 1 (teen pregnancy) and it is fascinating to talk with my frien…

Its funny how much life is staked against with a family. especially if one or both of you don't have a college degree. school hours aren't set up for jobs. A lot of companies don't tolerate sick kids. daycare is beyond expensive. health care for families is just impossible. Most people don't have enough savings to make a dent.

In today's world you almost need a family with 3 adult partners. Two workers and one stay-at-home person taking care of the home and children.

That sort of arrangement would put you solidly in the middle class at least while having a well-cared-for home and children.

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