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A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

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Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

#11

Social workers don't earn $11M in a lifetime, and are unlikely to earn $2M total - this type of wealth cannot be amassed by frugality. This is irresponsible journalism.

From the article:

"Naiman became a social worker after leaving a career in banking."

"Naiman received a sizable inheritance when his father died, which added to his fortune."

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

#12

Social workers don't earn $11M in a lifetime, and are unlikely to earn $2M total - this type of wealth cannot be amassed by frugality. This is irresponsible journalism.

In this case the article says he got a couple million from his parents. He was also a banker as well.

Suppose he was just a social worker. Suppose you saved 30k from your job and invested in amazon when it started. It would be worth 30 mil today. But that would require being frugal and not pulling that money out and leaving the compounding effects to work.

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

#13
As an accountant my observation is, the skills required to make money and spend money are very different.

The time and effort most people put into the former is much greater over a lifetime than the latter.

In this case you can see what happens when the rule flips.

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

#14

Social workers don't earn $11M in a lifetime, and are unlikely to earn $2M total - this type of wealth cannot be amassed by frugality. This is irresponsible journalism.

> this type of wealth cannot be amassed by frugality

It can be frittered away by a lack thereof. I’ve seen lots of bankers blow through unseemly quantities of wealth due to a lack of financial planning.

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

#15

Social workers don't earn $11M in a lifetime, and are unlikely to earn $2M total - this type of wealth cannot be amassed by frugality. This is irresponsible journalism.

To my mind, it doesn't actually suggest that at all. It only suggests "Everyone is shocked that a guy who held his shoes together with duct tape had that kind of dough. WTF??"

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

#16

Social workers don't earn $11M in a lifetime, and are unlikely to earn $2M total - this type of wealth cannot be amassed by frugality. This is irresponsible journalism.

In this case the article says he got a couple million from his parents. He was also a banker as well. Suppose he was just a social worker. Suppose you saved 30k from your job and invested in amazon when it started. It would be worth 30 mil today. But that would require being frugal and not pulling that money out and leaving the compounding effects to work.

I mean it would also require the foresight of going all in on one of the biggest companies of the decade, and keeping it through the rest of the industry was falling apart. This argument is fairly akin to "Suppose he won the lottery."

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

{citation needed} Rather than "most", I reckon there are very few people who spend that much wealth, and they all have articles written about them.

around 70% of lottery winners end up filing bankruptcy. Lots of professional athletes go broke as well. The rich don't always get richer, most people will revert to mean if they essentially got lucky https://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/01/why_do_...

Always worth it to delve into how a statistic was computed. In this case, the organization cited as the source of the 70% figure itself disclaims it:

""" Over the past couple of years several news organizations have attributed a statistic to the National Endowment for Financial Education (NEFE) stating that 70 percent of lottery winners end up bankrupt in just a few years after receiving a large financial windfall. This statistic is not backed by research from NEFE, nor can it be confirmed by the organization. Frequent reporting—without validation from NEFE—has allowed this “stat” to survive online in perpetuity. """

(https://www.nefe.org/Press-Room/News/Research-Statistic-on-F...)

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

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Social workers don't earn $11M in a lifetime, and are unlikely to earn $2M total - this type of wealth cannot be amassed by frugality. This is irresponsible journalism.

You're not wrong.

But it's important to note that the key to amass wealth is investing not collecting paychecks.

Re: A frugal social worker left $11M to children's charities in his will

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how much of it can be attributed to frugalness remains questionable. All of it. Most people that luck into wealth spend it all if they are not schooled in the arts of finance. A couple of shopping sprees, a bad investment here and there, a bad fund manager and it's all gone.

Yet there are many frugal people in the world who have never been millionaires.

Sure. It's necessary, not sufficient. The only way to get and stay rich is to not spend all of your money. It may seem obvious, but it's a step that many high earners seem to forget.
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