Is there a blog post or outline that summarizes this talk? I care about privacy, but don't have an hour to watch the whole video. The conference does provide a useful link to a privacy-centric page which catalogs some known facebook abuses: https://privacyinternational.org/types-abuse/facebook but there is no outline of this talk which summarizes the methods that facebook uses to spy on their users and the public.
How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
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Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
#12Is there a blog post or outline that summarizes this talk? I care about privacy, but don't have an hour to watch the whole video. The conference does provide a useful link to a privacy-centric page which catalogs some known facebook abuses: https://privacyinternational.org/types-abuse/facebook but there is no outline of this talk which summarizes the methods that facebook uses to spy on their users and the public.
Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
#13Where are the torrent links?
Anyway, There are more paid tracking SDKs in the wild and probably more invasive than Facebook's.
For example, in Poland there is a service called Cluify which supposedly tracks millions of phones to then target ads at them. Although they're Google ads. In fact, they're a "proud partner of Google."
On the website https://cluify.com/ they mention using wifi but in sales pitches they boast inclusion in many popular apps. As their client you can geofence an area and buy ads directed at devices which frequent them.
I purged and fumigated most of these parasites from my phone. Going even as far as replacing the OS because LG thought the Facebook app should be an integral part of their distribution and not removable. Hopefully they at least charged Facebook dearly for it.
Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
#14Is there a blog post or outline that summarizes this talk? I care about privacy, but don't have an hour to watch the whole video. The conference does provide a useful link to a privacy-centric page which catalogs some known facebook abuses: https://privacyinternational.org/types-abuse/facebook but there is no outline of this talk which summarizes the methods that facebook uses to spy on their users and the public.
That's the underlying report: https://privacyinternational.org/report/2647/how-apps-androi...
Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
#15We're spoiled in the desktop browser by being able to clear history, cookies, local storage etc, or use a private browser session. There's also the importance of the "same origin policy". The Android platform API should simply never allow apps to obtain global system identifiers (serial numbers, "advertising IDs", MACs, Wifi network info, EMEIs etc) in the first place. Perhaps even going as far as not providing a sha…
While you make good points about mobile apps, don't be too spoiled by the privacy offered by destop browsers. Because of their configuration and various APIs, they're almost as easy to fingerprint as mobile devices with advertising IDs.
EFF has had a proof of concept online for quite a while https://panopticlick.eff.org/
And HN users are probably even more vulnerable since we will have customized our software making it stand out.
Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
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#17We're spoiled in the desktop browser by being able to clear history, cookies, local storage etc, or use a private browser session. There's also the importance of the "same origin policy". The Android platform API should simply never allow apps to obtain global system identifiers (serial numbers, "advertising IDs", MACs, Wifi network info, EMEIs etc) in the first place. Perhaps even going as far as not providing a sha…
> The Android platform API should simply never allow apps to obtain global system identifiers (serial numbers, "advertising IDs", MACs, Wifi network info, EMEIs etc) in the first place.
Of course. On the other hand, Google's global attitude is that user tracking is fine, their core business is based on that. So it would be hypocritical on their part if they decided to block user tracking on their devices.
Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
#18We're spoiled in the desktop browser by being able to clear history, cookies, local storage etc, or use a private browser session. There's also the importance of the "same origin policy". The Android platform API should simply never allow apps to obtain global system identifiers (serial numbers, "advertising IDs", MACs, Wifi network info, EMEIs etc) in the first place. Perhaps even going as far as not providing a sha…
While you make good points about mobile apps, don't be too spoiled by the privacy offered by destop browsers. Because of their configuration and various APIs, they're almost as easy to fingerprint as mobile devices with advertising IDs. EFF has had a proof of concept online for quite a while https://panopticlick.eff.org/ And HN users are probably even more vulnerable since we will have customized our software making…
> And HN users are probably even more vulnerable since we will have customized our software making it stand out.
On the other hand, among HN users you'll probably find a higher percentage of those who block JS by default and allow it only on selected websites. Most of these fingerprinting methods (and most web abuse in general) depends on JS being turned on.
Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
While you make good points about mobile apps, don't be too spoiled by the privacy offered by destop browsers. Because of their configuration and various APIs, they're almost as easy to fingerprint as mobile devices with advertising IDs. EFF has had a proof of concept online for quite a while https://panopticlick.eff.org/ And HN users are probably even more vulnerable since we will have customized our software making…
> And HN users are probably even more vulnerable since we will have customized our software making it stand out. On the other hand, among HN users you'll probably find a higher percentage of those who block JS by default and allow it only on selected websites. Most of these fingerprinting methods (and most web abuse in general) depends on JS being turned on.
Maybe. OTOH, how many people who share your IP addresses use the same browser, OS, and block JS?
Unless you're using a vanilla Tor Browser, you will probably stand out. And if you are, 'tptacek will tell you how it's a bad idea for other reasons.
Re: How Facebook tracks you on Android [video]
#20What are the names of these companies? I would love to send them all a GDPR request asking for my data.