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Tesla Adds Larry Ellison and Kathleen Wilson-Thompson as Board Directors

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Re: Tesla Adds Larry Ellison and Kathleen Wilson-Thompson as Board Directors

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Tesla just reached profitability last quarter, and is likely to turn a profit this quarter as well. They might not even need to raise more capital if they keep up with Model 3 demand coming from the US, Europe, and China next year. This is a far cry from bankrupt in March.

Probably depends on when the predicted crisis hits and how bad that will be.

that is just wishful thinking of people on the internet, the market is the prediction engine.

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I think you'll find that Ellison's "vision" of network computing was literally acquired when Oracle bought Sun Microsystems. Sun's fifth employee, John Gage, coined the phrase "the network is the computer" in 1984 [0]. Ken Olsen (Digital Equipment Corp) is also reputed to have shared this view as far back as 1987 [1]. [0] https://www.computerworld.com.au/slideshow/334210/pictures-r... [1] https://slidex.tips/download…

>I think you'll find that Ellison's "vision" of network computing was literally acquired when Oracle bought Sun Microsystems. That’s incorrect. Acquisition of Sun cane much later. “Network is the computer” is very different from Ellison’s Network Computing because in Ellison’s vision complexity is centralized and end-user devices are glorified dumb terminals which is very different from Sun’s “Network is the computer…

You know, most PR firms operate with a bit more subtelty.

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If it turns out the hardware is not good enough I would expect them to replace it with something that is once hardware requirements are known.

True. Tesla also claims to not really advertise. Well, spinning hyperbole that fires up the clickbait is definitely effective advertising.

No, advertising is paid placement. What you’re describing is PR.

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Level 5 self driving is still theoretical at this point, and theoretically speaking, there is no reason to assume LIDAR is absolutely necessary for it. Computer vision based pipelines are theoretically capable of providing the same depth information as LIDAR, using stereo, camera arrays or even monocular SLAM. The main obstacle for self-driving car is much more on the processing side than on the sensor side. After al…

>"Computer vision based pipelines are theoretically capable of providing the same depth information as LIDAR, using stereo, camera arrays or even monocular SLAM." Are there any companies that are taking the purely computer vision approach then? >"(IIRC they have an Nvidia X2 and GP106 onboard, which only have a total of about 4 SPFP TFLOPs)." Can you say how far off is that compute power from what is actually require…

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> every expert in the field unconnected to Tesla seems to agree [lidar] is necessary to implement Level 5 self driving cars As someone that doesn't know anything about self-driving cars, how can this be true? Humans can drive cars with only visual input. Why can't AI?

Human eyes don't work anything like cameras. The eye processes information that isn't just intensities of photons and their wave lengths—which is the only information collected by cameras. See Walter Pitt's "What the Frog Eyes Tell the Frog Brain" for an introduction: 'Fundamentally it shows that the eye speaks to the brain in a language already highly organized and interpreted, instead of transmitting some more or l…

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Re: Tesla Adds Larry Ellison and Kathleen Wilson-Thompson as Board Directors

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Geez. Okay I didn't realise he was hyper rich. Well, I'm delighted for anyone to want to support electric cars.

It's hard to think about the wealth of extremely wealthy people intuitively. Just for added perspective, he bought an entire Hawai'ian island called Lanai.

He bought 97% of the property on the island. He does not own the island or control it politically.

Essentially, he bought a pineapple farm that happens to cover most of the island.

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Glad to hear Tesla is adding more women. I truly think women in leadership are a grossly underutilized resource. EDIT: Doubly so women of color. If anyone needs a different perspective, it’s Elon. I hope he listens.

Wow, huh, my comment was down-voted.

My theory is that innate talent (if there is such a thing) is probably roughly evenly distributed among the sexes and races, so in fields which are dominated by white men, you're actually at an advantage if you manage to hire women and/or minorities as you are able to hire some of the very best humans effectively at an enormous discount (of course, if everyone did this, the discount would disappear and we'd have meritocratic equality, which is kind of what we want).

Plus it increases the solution space you're able to efficiently explore due to a wider range of perspective and background.

I have had several women bosses, and they're pretty much all great. We'll know when we've achieved gender equality when it's just as common to have a crappy female boss as a male boss.

Oh, and folks suggesting we look at "objective" metrics alone... Well, there's no such thing. When hiring folks, there's an enormous amount of information that just can't be known at the time. You really do have to look at the outcome to judge how "objective" you're actually being, on net.

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"Am I pretty much just hiring people who look like me?"

There's two answers to that question:

"Well, obviously people who look like me are naturally better than everyone else."

Or, my perspective:

"I'm probably missing something important so I should cast a wider net."

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> But he was tenacious; he would never give up on anything. To be fair, in my mind this is the one most common trait I find in successful entrepreneurs and leaders. I've seen leaders who I didn't think were particularly bright, or extroverted, or empathic, but man, did they not get stressed out by obstacles that came in their way. They either sidestepped them or overcame them, but they did not dwell on them and let t…

Is it that they don't get stressed, or that they are great at hiding it to project an air of confidence at all times. And how would you tell the difference?

> Is it that they don't get stressed, or that they are great at hiding it to project an air of confidence at all times.

I wouldn't say it's that they don't get stressed, but that they are able to quickly compartmentalize it and move on without dwelling on it.

On the "are they just great at hiding" question, at least in my experience this isn't really possible. Personally, I have severe negative physical effects in response to long term, chronic stress. I sleep poorly, get severe intestinal issues, etc. At some point it becomes pretty impossible for me to just "hide it" - I'd LOVE to be able to quiet my body's physiological responses, but I'm just not capable. In seeing how some of my colleagues dealt with the same stressors, I can assure you they weren't just "hiding it" - if they were experiencing the same physical effects I was, at some point it would have been impossible to hide.

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Concerning D.Trump: being swiss, if he gets little or no sleep (because or routine work or anything which he triggered himself) I would judge that as mismanagement :)

Good leaders identify good delegates. Poor leaders micromanage.

I hear this a lot, and while I generally agree with it, I feel like it ignores the significant counterexamples. You can argue whether Elon Musk and Steve Jobs were good leaders, but I think it's difficult to argue they weren't able to accomplish something uniquely remarkable. In my experience, good leaders may not micromanage but the best leaders are able to, and often do, "get into the weeds" and are actually able to understand and act on the nitty-gritty details even better than the people doing those jobs.

Re: Tesla Adds Larry Ellison and Kathleen Wilson-Thompson as Board Directors

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Wow, what is he bringing to the table?

Right now Tesla is really the only company selling even close to volume. No one else is even trying to hit the 500k to 1m volumes Tesla is aiming for. Over the next decade several others will join them.

Ellison is a butt, but he understands fierce competition very well. As other automakers start gunning for Tesla hos advice will be an asset.

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