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Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always wondered whether I could sell audiophile SATA cables for those who listen to music from their hard drives... Edit: a commenter below has a link to an actual audiophile SATA cable.

Yes, you can absolutely sell "HD SATA" cables. To paraphrase, "There's a new audiophile born every minute". https://jcat.eu/audiophile-sata-cable/

huh, besides the BS, isn't the file loaded into RAM first anyway?

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A tangent, but seeing as this thread has awoken the HN audiophiles: What should I look for/avoid in a DAC? Does it really matter if my source device is an iPhone/iPad? Reading blogs and review sites talk about the personality of DACs has started to grind on me. Surely it’s just a question of accuracy which can be summarized in a metric? (I’m currently probably going to get a NAD D 3045 integrated amp/DAC, mainly for…

The cheapest chip-on-board USB DACs from China are the ones to avoid, they can't even do conversion well. Everything else that has proper surface mount chips (even if they are cmedia clones) and output capacitors for headphones is of decent quality.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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I always wondered how people selling some of these audiophile gadgets can justify to themselves over long run what might appear as a scam to many outsiders. But then I was explained that this is little different than my|your|their wife spending $$$ on some ridiculously expensive Bottega|Hermes|Burberry|... handbag. Which after all is functionally about the same as $1 handbag.

Some people choose handbags, or cars, and I guess them audiophiles choose thick cables, and concrete poles. Each to their own.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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Even if you buy into this theory, how is this cheaper or better than using batteries to power your gear?

Good question. Sounds like a great opportunity to sell overpriced batteries to audiophiles.

It's not a new idea, really. I remember seeing Nagra come out with a battery-powered preamp for home stereos, many years ago (and I think they still make them).

I also remember hearing back in the day of some audiophiles powering their systems with regenerating UPS from APC (like the kind you'd see in a data center), though PS Audio has been making such units marketed for audiophiles for a while now too.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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I don't understand this type of audiophiles. I also have a fairly high end, vintage audio system at home, but I'd never do anything like that in the name of audio quality. There's a quote I love about these people: A normal person uses the audio system to listen music, while an audiophile uses music to listen to his audio system.

You don't understand the power of naivety, placebo effect, dreams and stupidity composed (multiply all). Not in any way intended to insult these people, I know a few (not as rich) and they simply do not want to understand the basic principles behind digital signals, error corrections etc. I know people that work in IT and still pretend that audio transmission over USB can add jitter to music and that a DAC can "open"…

What kind of arguments you've been using? Are you talking specifically about the DA chips or the black boxes containing them? I pretty much can agree with you regarding the digital side of things, but could the actual appliances have notable differences in their analogue side or configuration? Maybe the actual value of having a $400 DAC appliance (built around a $2 Wolfson DAC chip) is going around problems in a computer's noisy or badly pre-amplified integrated audio output.

I don't mean to question your expertise on the subject, I'm just after an explanation what are the exact reasons why the setups with separate DAC and amp boxes have made me find new musical instruments on my audio files. And of course it would be nice to know if there is an inexpensive way of getting the analogue signal to a good amplifier without somehow ruining it.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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Even if noise in the power signal were to influence audio quality to an appreciable amount, this way of solving the problem is rather curious for the uncompromising audiophiles.

Why would you install your own secondary transformer when you could just rectify the current, accumulate it and then use an inverter for a fraction of the price? Or even better just store the current and use it to power the audio equipment with direct current, skipping AC entirely.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you can absolutely sell "HD SATA" cables. To paraphrase, "There's a new audiophile born every minute". https://jcat.eu/audiophile-sata-cable/

huh, besides the BS, isn't the file loaded into RAM first anyway?

Yes, which is why this is one of the more absurd pieces of audiophile gear.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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post #113

I always wondered how people selling some of these audiophile gadgets can justify to themselves over long run what might appear as a scam to many outsiders. But then I was explained that this is little different than my|your|their wife spending $$$ on some ridiculously expensive Bottega|Hermes|Burberry|... handbag. Which after all is functionally about the same as $1 handbag. Some people choose handbags, or cars, and…

Right. It(audiophiles) also seems like a pretty dead horse to beat. Not many original criticisms come of these discussions.

Ya don't have people critizing folks buying a Porsche when a corolla will do the job just as well.

Audiophiles, as well as "hipsters" I think just provide themselves as an easy target for internet commentators.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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At what point does it stop being a hobby and turn into mental illness?

“The difference between a collector and a hoarder is a display case.” -John Hodgman

Does that mean that by definition it is not possible to hoard display cases?
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