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Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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I don't understand this type of audiophiles. I also have a fairly high end, vintage audio system at home, but I'd never do anything like that in the name of audio quality. There's a quote I love about these people: A normal person uses the audio system to listen music, while an audiophile uses music to listen to his audio system.

One of the things I truly will never understand about "Audiophiles" is their willingness to spend money on products that are, from a technical basis, indisputably categorized as snake oil. For instance: https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable... It's an HDMI cable! The video signal has CRC in it and is packetized, it's either going to make it or it isn't. The quality of video delivered at, for in…

I've always wondered whether I could sell audiophile SATA cables for those who listen to music from their hard drives...

Edit: a commenter below has a link to an actual audiophile SATA cable.

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When I'm playing music on my stereo from my PC through USB, turning off the lights on my bathroom on the other side of the wall will momentarily kill my USB driver and as a result Spotify stops working. Electromagnetic interference is no joke.

Wait- your USB on your computer stops working? Is this true for every component you plug in? I imagine this is your stereo power supply. I oddly would love to hear more.

Could be lots of things. The first thing to check out is the neutral and ground connections on all related circuits.

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What's the dynamic range of vinyl? Usually 70 dB, whereas 16bit PCM is around 90 dB. That's what OP was probably referring to. Since the master was done for the CD then compressed for the vinyl it sounds softer/cleaner.

CDs do have superior dynamic range, but when modern mastering squashes everything within a few dB of full scale it hardly matters. But I disagree that vinyl releases[0] typically have lower dynamic range than CD releases (most often it's the same, sometimes it's higher, and only very rarely it's lower), and I disagree that lower dynamic range sounds better on good equipment. [0] Talking about popular music only. I do…

I have no actual data about the musical signals present on the discs themselves (be they made of any kind of plastic with grooves or pits), I just mentioned the technological limitations of them. ( see also https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl)#My... )

However, as far as I know the loudness wars is coming to an end finally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war#2010s "Analysis suggests that the loudness trend may have peaked around 2005 and subsequently reduced, with a pronounced increase in overall and minimum album DR (crest factor) for albums since 2005."

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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I don't understand this type of audiophiles. I also have a fairly high end, vintage audio system at home, but I'd never do anything like that in the name of audio quality. There's a quote I love about these people: A normal person uses the audio system to listen music, while an audiophile uses music to listen to his audio system.

One of the things I truly will never understand about "Audiophiles" is their willingness to spend money on products that are, from a technical basis, indisputably categorized as snake oil. For instance: https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable... It's an HDMI cable! The video signal has CRC in it and is packetized, it's either going to make it or it isn't. The quality of video delivered at, for in…

I often counter with the idea of transmitting an ebook over the same cable. "Does it become more detailed, in depth with more character development?"

The only thing I can agree is better on a digital cable is increased shielding to avoid ground noise.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

#85

I don't understand this type of audiophiles. I also have a fairly high end, vintage audio system at home, but I'd never do anything like that in the name of audio quality. There's a quote I love about these people: A normal person uses the audio system to listen music, while an audiophile uses music to listen to his audio system.

One of the things I truly will never understand about "Audiophiles" is their willingness to spend money on products that are, from a technical basis, indisputably categorized as snake oil. For instance: https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable... It's an HDMI cable! The video signal has CRC in it and is packetized, it's either going to make it or it isn't. The quality of video delivered at, for in…

Technically there is jitter in the digital domain, and it's possible to see problems at high bandwidth signals, but in low bandwidth transmissions like Flac, you're absolutely right.

If you have nanosecond timing requirements, then those might be useful, but for audio they are overkill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the things I truly will never understand about "Audiophiles" is their willingness to spend money on products that are, from a technical basis, indisputably categorized as snake oil. For instance: https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable... It's an HDMI cable! The video signal has CRC in it and is packetized, it's either going to make it or it isn't. The quality of video delivered at, for in…

I've always wondered whether I could sell audiophile SATA cables for those who listen to music from their hard drives... Edit: a commenter below has a link to an actual audiophile SATA cable.

Yes, you can absolutely sell "HD SATA" cables. To paraphrase, "There's a new audiophile born every minute".

https://jcat.eu/audiophile-sata-cable/

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post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the things I truly will never understand about "Audiophiles" is their willingness to spend money on products that are, from a technical basis, indisputably categorized as snake oil. For instance: https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable... It's an HDMI cable! The video signal has CRC in it and is packetized, it's either going to make it or it isn't. The quality of video delivered at, for in…

Technically there is jitter in the digital domain, and it's possible to see problems at high bandwidth signals, but in low bandwidth transmissions like Flac, you're absolutely right. If you have nanosecond timing requirements, then those might be useful, but for audio they are overkill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitter

FLAC????? Ew... Every audiophile knows that WAV sounds the best. FLAC quality is mediocre compared to WAV.

Update: geez, it was satire...

...or was it?

https://serato.com/forum/discussion/1541194

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/flac-vs-wav-format-surprisin...

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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I don't understand this type of audiophiles. I also have a fairly high end, vintage audio system at home, but I'd never do anything like that in the name of audio quality. There's a quote I love about these people: A normal person uses the audio system to listen music, while an audiophile uses music to listen to his audio system.

One of the things I truly will never understand about "Audiophiles" is their willingness to spend money on products that are, from a technical basis, indisputably categorized as snake oil. For instance: https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable... It's an HDMI cable! The video signal has CRC in it and is packetized, it's either going to make it or it isn't. The quality of video delivered at, for in…

I’ll pay a bit extra for a nicely wrapped cable with really good anti-tangle and strain relief properties, because that’s convenient.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

#89

The thing is, that power upgrade is likely much more meaningful than the $60K amplifier or the stupid gold cables. Clean power + $399.99 amplifier > dirty power + $60K amp.

...and clean power can be achieved by adding some capacitors and inductors at the right locations in the power supply. This'll cost a few tens of dollars, if you really want to go wild you could spend around $100. Not that this should be needed in a $40K amplifier of course. Private pole pigs are not needed for this application, the only function they serve is as a form of affluence signalling to 'those in the know'.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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When I'm playing music on my stereo from my PC through USB, turning off the lights on my bathroom on the other side of the wall will momentarily kill my USB driver and as a result Spotify stops working. Electromagnetic interference is no joke.

That’s bad ground. There’s some sort of shoddy electrical work in the wall.

In my home, a previous owner cut a cable too short and connected the line to ground via a paper clip. Could have killed us.

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