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Re: Crypto 101 – Introductory course on cryptography

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Hi lvh, Do you intend to complete this book at some indeterminate point in the future? Is there anything that any of us can do to help make it happen?

I'm not sure what "complete" would entail :) For example: would a description of Noise be in scope? I think so but I'm not sure. People come up with new cool stuff that's useful to median developers on the regular (say, NMR) that feels like it ought to be added/updated. So I think it's forever a WIP and that's OK since I'm not really printing the book?

Thank you for writing this book! I recently used this book to brush up on crypto fundamentals for some interviews and found it really valuable. I was even able to implement a padding oracle attack after only knowing it in theory for a very long time. I was also wondering if you had any plans to complete. Right now, there are 36 TODO's in the book. Not all of them need further explanation and can be left as an exercise but some of them might be useful to dig into. Regardless, it is still awesome!

Re: Crypto 101 – Introductory course on cryptography

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I'm not sure what "complete" would entail :) For example: would a description of Noise be in scope? I think so but I'm not sure. People come up with new cool stuff that's useful to median developers on the regular (say, NMR) that feels like it ought to be added/updated. So I think it's forever a WIP and that's OK since I'm not really printing the book?

Thank you for writing this book! I recently used this book to brush up on crypto fundamentals for some interviews and found it really valuable. I was even able to implement a padding oracle attack after only knowing it in theory for a very long time. I was also wondering if you had any plans to complete. Right now, there are 36 TODO's in the book. Not all of them need further explanation and can be left as an exercis…

I definitely want to work on it more but I think completion goals are going to be at a chapter level maybe -- there'll always be stuff to add :)

Re: Crypto 101 – Introductory course on cryptography

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Oh interesting. I recently got "Applied Cryptography" in one of the nostarchpress sales. I expected it to be turbo technical and way outside my league but popped it open on a whim one day. So far it's incredibly accessible, does anyone have thoughts on that versus this course? Worth taking the course after I finish Applied cryptography?

Applied Cryptography is terrible. https://sockpuppet.org/blog/2013/07/22/applied-practical-cry... No Starch's "Serious Cryptography", the JP Aumasson book, is strong.

I recall you saying that "Cryptography Engineering" was much better than AC somewhere.

Do you recommend Serious Cryptography over that?

Re: Crypto 101 – Introductory course on cryptography

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There is also a cryptography course from Udacity: https://www.udacity.com/course/applied-cryptography--cs387

In the “secure computation” part, do you learn how to do such computation or is it just another explanation of what it is?

I know the “what” of this but not the “how”. If this teaches me what I need in order to go and actually implement it myself then I am interested.

Re: Crypto 101 – Introductory course on cryptography

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Applied Cryptography is terrible. https://sockpuppet.org/blog/2013/07/22/applied-practical-cry... No Starch's "Serious Cryptography", the JP Aumasson book, is strong.

I recall you saying that "Cryptography Engineering" was much better than AC somewhere. Do you recommend Serious Cryptography over that?

Both books have their strengths. If I had to pick one, it'd be Serious Cryptography, since it's much more up-to-date than Cryptography Engineering is.

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No, I do mean Applied Cryptography. I may have picked it up in a humble bundle sale in hindsight.

Gotcha. Serious Cryptography is good. Applied Cryptography is... not. Except insofar Latacora making stickers that make fun of it and people printing t-shirts to benefit charities is good of course :-)

It's also good for historical interest. It was a great book for its time. Now it's horribly outdated, even Schneier recommends against using it for anything other than learning about the state of academic cryptography in the '90s. Which is important, but not relevant to modern cryptography.
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