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Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Of course there are games that already have proven this, most notably League of Legends (which is also mentioned in the article).

I'm thinking candy crush was pre-league of legends. It brought in $1B revenue for 2018, which is the highest ever and still growing.

League of Legends has been around since 2009, versus Candy Crush Saga in 2012.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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I don't really like Fortnite, but I'm really really happy for Epic's success. PUBG was a flaming dumpster heap that only caught on because the Battle Royale mechanic is naturally fun and people were clamoring for that type of game. But it was an unqualified mess from a subpar developer, and that always annoyed me because gamers deserved better. Now Epic has been rescued from sliding into obscurity and they've got mas…

While I agree that PUBG is a dumpster heap technically, it really is a legitimately fun game. I enjoy it much more than Fortnite, and if it performed halfway decently it would be one of my favorite games of all time. I think Fortnite's success is great and it is very clear why it is more popular than PUBG could have ever hoped to be, but I will always be partial to the slow, suffocating, horror of feeling alone in th…

I'd like to add gun mechanics. PUBG has the best gunplay I've ever played. For me PUBG fights are thrilling, like I was there getting shot at, while Fortnite's (or any other game for that matter) are plain old arcadey. I dislike the building mechanic too.

I'd genuinely love for a developer to step up and do a better milsim BR but so far PUBG is king in that niche.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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I can confirm. We wrote couple of games together in 1995-98 (Fire Fight being the biggest). He is genuinely a good guy.

Fire Fight! That's a blast from the past. I remember being amazed by how cool it looked and felt to play when I was 12 or 13.

Yup, been some fun to write. We did it in Cracow Poland, no internet, barely any money, these were times!

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Arena shooters are "dying" for the same reason chess isn't as popular as online poker. Back in the day arena shooter popularity was because there was no low hanging fruit alternative like modern military shooters or Fortnite of today. But it turns out most people don't want to either participate in or watch games of absolute skill. The former requires a lot of commitment to get good at it, and there is no randomness…

Anyone with any sense of these games work would see that modern games like Fortnite or Overwatch take more skill than typical arena shooters. You still need to have the raw mechanical aim skill, but now there are a host of other mechanical, tactical and cooperative skills to master on top of that.

Having played shooters since the arena shooter days... no, I definitely disagree.

I like to compare arena shooters vs. Fortnite/Overwatch as chess vs. Settlers of Catan. Arena shooters were much more "open play" in the sense that there were few enough game mechanics that you could mostly guess your opponents' tactics and it often came down to execution and minute variations in the gameplay.

The newer shooters add many, many game mechanics that complicate and randomize the game. Overwatch's large stable of characters, for example. This creates a problem where part of your skill is reading matchups from an intractably large number of factors, then executing on it.

I don't consider either to be superior, but the games put emphasis on and reward different skills.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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PUBG has gotten a lot better the past month, it still has the best feel and fun factor of any FPS out right now. See you on Vikendi. Bring your snow jacket.

I've heard that exact sentence for the past year plus. I'm sure it IS better, but I'm also sure it's still a mess.

> I'm also sure it's still a mess.

Definitely not. Bugs are not a common occurrence currently, while they were present in every single gaming session I had, even for the last year.

Give it a try, the game is in a great state.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Not just drawn development away, but they are no longer developing it. https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/development-stopped-unr...

Oh no, sad to hear this. Still regularly shoot around with my gf on classic UT2004...

A guy upthread is mentioning quake champions doom edition as an alternative

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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The UE Marketplace is targeted at developers only and sells assets and such for use in UE games. I was not aware that Steam is competing in that area at all and a cursory search didn't yield any such results. Of course other marketplaces selling assets exist, but I am not aware that one has a dominant market position that Epic are trying hard to surpass. Please do let me know if that is, in fact, the case. Or are you…

They are talking about the Steam-competing store Epic launched recently: https://www.epicgames.com/store/ It's pretty empty now but I'll be shocked if it doesn't have thousands of games within the next 3 years.

The store is closely curated by Epic, and that - the quality of game selection - was their main pitch for the gamers.

It's still possible that they will exhaust a pool of good games and start listing random junk for $100 like Steam does, but that's not likely to happen that quickly.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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While I agree that PUBG is a dumpster heap technically, it really is a legitimately fun game. I enjoy it much more than Fortnite, and if it performed halfway decently it would be one of my favorite games of all time. I think Fortnite's success is great and it is very clear why it is more popular than PUBG could have ever hoped to be, but I will always be partial to the slow, suffocating, horror of feeling alone in th…

I'd like to add gun mechanics. PUBG has the best gunplay I've ever played. For me PUBG fights are thrilling, like I was there getting shot at, while Fortnite's (or any other game for that matter) are plain old arcadey. I dislike the building mechanic too. I'd genuinely love for a developer to step up and do a better milsim BR but so far PUBG is king in that niche.

PUBG definitely took a lot of inspiration from Arma's gunplay, although for whatever reason the glitchy jankiness in Arma annoys me less than it does in PUBG. Maybe because the bugs in PUBG tend to have a greater impact on the outcome of fights.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Fortnite's pivot from failed co-op zombie game to... well, this ... is incredible. I would love to have experienced that office environment over that year. I can only imagine that the pivot was a "well, we already have most of the game. What can do we do with it?" hail Mary as they considered what to do short of closure. I may also be misremembering how dire their situation was. But I thought it was quite dire.

Fortnite may have been dire as a product, but Epic was surely not in any kind of trouble as a company.
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