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We sold our vehicle because the monthly payment, insurance, gasoline, and parking costs were adding up to about $1000 a month. I planned on downgrading from an Infiniti to a 3 year old Honda Civic or Fit. I visited three dealerships in my area. The experience was horrible at all three. I consider myself a decent person, but I now judge people who work in car sales or car sales management and not in a good way. Anyway…

I had my credit union's car purchasing department handle my car purchase. Did everything over email - I told them what I wanted and in what color, they did the legwork to find a dealer that had what I wanted. Emailed me a quote, then the dealer delivered it to my door. No haggling, no visiting dealers, just email and signing some papers.

If you're willing to pay the dealer's quote, then car salesmen will love you and you'll have a great time at a dealership anyway.

The entire bullshit process begins when you try to get a price that doesn't have thousands of extra dollars in for the dealership.

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I had my credit union's car purchasing department handle my car purchase. Did everything over email - I told them what I wanted and in what color, they did the legwork to find a dealer that had what I wanted. Emailed me a quote, then the dealer delivered it to my door. No haggling, no visiting dealers, just email and signing some papers.

What sort of credit union offers car purchasing service? what other services do they offer?

A bunch in the bay area. I use San Francisco Federal, but they use PatelCo CU's service.

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We sold our vehicle because the monthly payment, insurance, gasoline, and parking costs were adding up to about $1000 a month. I planned on downgrading from an Infiniti to a 3 year old Honda Civic or Fit. I visited three dealerships in my area. The experience was horrible at all three. I consider myself a decent person, but I now judge people who work in car sales or car sales management and not in a good way. Anyway…

Can you elaborate on your horrible experience? I bought a new car for the first time this year. I went to the Toyota dealer with my wife, we drove three cars, and decided the Corolla iM would be enough for 95% of our needs. We came back the next day and filled out all the paper work.

Of course, they did try to get us to buy a bunch of pointles s addons and insurances, so it was annoying to have to say "No" over and over again to those.

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We sold our vehicle because the monthly payment, insurance, gasoline, and parking costs were adding up to about $1000 a month. I planned on downgrading from an Infiniti to a 3 year old Honda Civic or Fit. I visited three dealerships in my area. The experience was horrible at all three. I consider myself a decent person, but I now judge people who work in car sales or car sales management and not in a good way. Anyway…

I had my credit union's car purchasing department handle my car purchase. Did everything over email - I told them what I wanted and in what color, they did the legwork to find a dealer that had what I wanted. Emailed me a quote, then the dealer delivered it to my door. No haggling, no visiting dealers, just email and signing some papers.

In all fairness that does assume you don’t care about test driving etc. but in general if you don’t have dealer financing needs, are happy to do a private sale or donation for your trade-in, and know what you want and will pay, the dealer experience is mostly just mildly annoying even if you buy a car from one.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had my credit union's car purchasing department handle my car purchase. Did everything over email - I told them what I wanted and in what color, they did the legwork to find a dealer that had what I wanted. Emailed me a quote, then the dealer delivered it to my door. No haggling, no visiting dealers, just email and signing some papers.

If you're willing to pay the dealer's quote, then car salesmen will love you and you'll have a great time at a dealership anyway. The entire bullshit process begins when you try to get a price that doesn't have thousands of extra dollars in for the dealership.

Sure, if the quote is out the door, but it never seems to be from what I've seen.

This was "Here's the price excluding title transfer including delivery"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had my credit union's car purchasing department handle my car purchase. Did everything over email - I told them what I wanted and in what color, they did the legwork to find a dealer that had what I wanted. Emailed me a quote, then the dealer delivered it to my door. No haggling, no visiting dealers, just email and signing some papers.

In all fairness that does assume you don’t care about test driving etc. but in general if you don’t have dealer financing needs, are happy to do a private sale or donation for your trade-in, and know what you want and will pay, the dealer experience is mostly just mildly annoying even if you buy a car from one.

Right - I knew exactly what I wanted since I had driven the car as a rental.

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Michigan legislators waited until 2 am to pass a controversial law not allowing Tesla to setup showrooms in the state. The state's car dealership organization and General Motors spent big money to make this happen. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15360613/unplugged-michig... Tesla already has a tool and die operation in Grand Rapids. They've even expressed interest in acquiring a closed GM plant in Detroit yet the…

That article seems to suggest there is strong _partisan_ (R) opposition. I'm not knowledgeable about current Michigan legislation; is there truly bipartisan opposition to opening a Tesla plant in Detroit?

The article only mentioned that the amendment was introduced by a republican and the current governor happens to be republican.

>Roll Call # 952 Yeas 106 Nays 1

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(0jea3dr1fnip1bve0xixi4we))/...

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We sold our vehicle because the monthly payment, insurance, gasoline, and parking costs were adding up to about $1000 a month. I planned on downgrading from an Infiniti to a 3 year old Honda Civic or Fit. I visited three dealerships in my area. The experience was horrible at all three. I consider myself a decent person, but I now judge people who work in car sales or car sales management and not in a good way. Anyway…

I worked for a month in college at a car dealership and it was every bit as shady as you think.

My boss asked me to help him pass the drug test by loaning him some urine (I declined).

One time after closing the sale of a car, the shop swapped out some damaged parts and claimed the new owner was responsible. It was at night so he hadn't noticed the damage before driving off the lot.

There was also a nonstop flood of white-lies to try and build rapport with customers. Every salesman had a kid the same age as the customers or a cousin who worked at the same company.

I was relieved to get out of there & started working at a software company instead. Despite how much I hated the job, the sales skills I learned there have served me well.

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How did you get a decent price? My employer offers a similar service as part of the benefits program. You print out a piece of paper, take it to the dealer, and get a prenegotiated price. Sounds amazing in theory until you do more research and realize you’re still paying $1000s more.

I emailed a bunch of dealers before my CU told me this service existed and got quotes, and they were competitive. It differed like, $500-1000 from what area dealers were offering and i was willing to take it. So, some legwork with a throwaway email address, but still very sofa compatibile.

I emailed dealers and no one wanted to work over email. One even flat out wrote back saying they don’t send quotes over email because they know i will just shop around for a lower price.
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