Why is California perpetually mystified that more government means less service? Because, it is hard for people to understand something when their paycheck depends on them not understanding it.
One year into legal pot sales California doesn’t have expected bustling industry
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#32California has had the world's leading cannabis industry for decades, we're just now paying 38% tax.
38% tax when sold legally in the local market. Black-market local sales and exports still don’t raise much tax revenue.
The total tax amount in San Francisco is about 25%, nowhere close to 38%. Where did you get that number?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What bothers me the most about this story is how marijuana is supposedly 'legal' yet some locals seem Hell-bent on treating it like an illegal and necessarily dangerous. It is still illegal at the federal level. There is nothing that stops the federal US government from throwing someone in jail for growing / transporting / using / processing payment for marijuana. I cannot think of anything else that is illegal at…
Just pointing out that the GP is referring to Canada, not the US.
In that context no I meant California.
But the commenter is right about it being illegal at the federal level... and as a Schedule I drug on par with Heroine no less but more dangerous than Hydromorphone (HA!).
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#34Turns out that buying from your local dealer is cheaper than going to someone who had to jump through regulatory hoops. who knew?
Isn't that the issue, though? In places where legalization has gone smoothly (I have personal experience in Oregon), cannabis shops are a dime a dozen, weed is cheap, easy to find, and certainly better quality. There are over 10 shops within a 10 minute drive of me, I can go buy an ounce for $50.
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#35Maybe this article overstated things and someone will clear it up in the comments but that was painful to read. I live in Vancouver and weed's been officially legal throughout the Canada for several weeks now. It's still relatively new but nothing noticeable has changed aside from fewer people discussing such a frivilous and previously mishandled issue. It's not perfect but far, far, far better than strict prohibitio…
>It's not perfect but far, far, far better than strict prohibition with draconian sentencing laws.
I thought you couldn't even be fined if carrying only enough for personal use.
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#36Maybe this article overstated things and someone will clear it up in the comments but that was painful to read. I live in Vancouver and weed's been officially legal throughout the Canada for several weeks now. It's still relatively new but nothing noticeable has changed aside from fewer people discussing such a frivilous and previously mishandled issue. It's not perfect but far, far, far better than strict prohibitio…
> What bothers me the most about this story is how marijuana is supposedly 'legal' yet some locals seem Hell-bent on treating it like an illegal and necessarily dangerous. It is still illegal at the federal level. There is nothing that stops the federal US government from throwing someone in jail for growing / transporting / using / processing payment for marijuana. I cannot think of anything else that is illegal at…
"There is nothing that stops the federal US government from throwing someone in jail for growing / transporting / using / processing payment for marijuana."
I always wondered about that. Has there been any chatter about someone trying to get a federal court to nullify the law? I have no idea how that can work.
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#37Marijuana policy is the epitome of broken American politics. Obsession with money and morality, racism and ignorance driving policy, a tiny minority out-of-touch with what they’re regulating writing the legislation, business regulations that are designed for business not people, and on and on.
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#38My personal issue with how legal pot has played out is I have no interest in becoming a patron of these lifestyle shops for a variety of reasons. I also don't want my ID to be scanned for buying something still federally illegal. If I could occasionally buy marijuana products at the grocery store as part of my normal shopping, no different than my occasional purchase of whiskey or wine, then I would have at least bou…
You could just have a friend get it for you from the store. Who the hell knows what's in the stuff off the street corner or who's blood had to be spilled to get it to you.
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#39For perspective Colorado has 549 retail establishments and 574 medical establishments (although many overlap) while having ~3/20 the population of California. While obviously Colorado has had retail cannabis since 2012/13, both states have areas strongly for and strongly against legalization. Considering that the cities that do allow rec cannabis include Los Angeles, Oakland, San Francisco and San Diego, the number o…
Both Colorado and California had significant commercial medical cannabis industries for years and years before going recreational. Why is that not often brought up in reporting? It’s already been close enough to recreational in California for years - anyone who wanted to smoke could get a card for 100 bucks and start shopping at dispensaries, or grow their own. I wouldn’t expect any major changes from recreational in a state has had loose medical for years, but for some reason the media does.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What bothers me the most about this story is how marijuana is supposedly 'legal' yet some locals seem Hell-bent on treating it like an illegal and necessarily dangerous. It is still illegal at the federal level. There is nothing that stops the federal US government from throwing someone in jail for growing / transporting / using / processing payment for marijuana. I cannot think of anything else that is illegal at…
"There is nothing that stops the federal US government from throwing someone in jail for growing / transporting / using / processing payment for marijuana." I always wondered about that. Has there been any chatter about someone trying to get a federal court to nullify the law? I have no idea how that can work.
There'd be no legal basis for that. Federal drug law trumps state ones if there's a conflict.