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Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by gnarbarian »

reaperducer wrote: post #3

Somewhat OT, but standing in line at the grocery store checkout last night I couldn't help but wonder why so many billions are being spent on complex visual problems like self-driving cars, then at the same time the checkout clerk has to look in a laminated binder and then manually punch in a code number to get a price for bananas. (Happens at both big chains around here — Safeway and Kroger alliances.) Surely with a…

Ahh but could ML spot the difference between an organic banana and a regular one? I bet it could but it would be trickier.

Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by gjm11 »

reaperducer wrote: post #8
magnetic wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the laminated binder is not a nominal case, thankfully. Think of it as a cache miss. Most checkout clerks have memorized the codes and don't refer to the binder anymore. Perhaps you saw a new employee. Also, many fruits/veggies have stickers on them with the code (either numeric or bar-code) so you don't have to do a lookup into "the binder". That's how you can easily go through the "self checkout" lanes (…

many fruits/veggies have stickers on them with the code IME, too often the sticker isn't useful because it's fallen off, or is obscured by the green eco-friendly produce bags. That's how you can easily go through the "self checkout" lanes I don't use self-checkout, on principle. I'd rather wait in line three minutes than cost a minimum-wage checkout person their job. It's often key to have a differentiator in the for…

> I don't know that AI will be able to distinguish regular from organic produce in my lifetime.

Yeah, it will. The not-organic produce will have been genetically engineered to contain RFID tags :-).

Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by reaperducer »

mobilemidget wrote: post #10
reaperducer wrote: post #3

Somewhat OT, but standing in line at the grocery store checkout last night I couldn't help but wonder why so many billions are being spent on complex visual problems like self-driving cars, then at the same time the checkout clerk has to look in a laminated binder and then manually punch in a code number to get a price for bananas. (Happens at both big chains around here — Safeway and Kroger alliances.) Surely with a…

For sure it will recognise fruits and vegetables better then any teenager around here that has a job as cashier. Amount of times I had to facepalm because cashier didn't recognise a beet or other common vegetable or fruit is significant. But I refuse to self scan until you have to pay to use a cashier or self scan gets you a discount.

Amount of times I had to facepalm because cashier didn't recognise a beet or other common vegetable or fruit is significant.

Yeah, I have that problem, too. And I don't even eat "exotic"-looking things like pomegranates. Finger potatoes, kiwis, beets, cherry tomatoes (are they cherries or tomatoes?), and lots of other things confound grocery clerks these days.

And holy cow, don't try to pay with a two-dollar bill, or a dollar coin!

But I refuse to self scan until you have to pay to use a cashier or self scan gets you a discount.

Agreed.

Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by devonkim »

lj3 wrote: post #6
reaperducer wrote: post #3

Somewhat OT, but standing in line at the grocery store checkout last night I couldn't help but wonder why so many billions are being spent on complex visual problems like self-driving cars, then at the same time the checkout clerk has to look in a laminated binder and then manually punch in a code number to get a price for bananas. (Happens at both big chains around here — Safeway and Kroger alliances.) Surely with a…

Human labor is still cheaper and more consistent than current AI and ML systems.

The issue of human labor cost isn’t the whole picture as much as the TCO of an impoverished employee class such as high employee theft rates, lost work days from stress / poor nutrition / commute / lack of energy for exercise. Then there’s also the PR and legal necessary to avoid paying out fraudulent worker’s comp cases. There’s a lot of overhead that comes from treating employees like cattle that it makes me wonder if things may be better by just paying them more.

Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by bcatanzaro »

They used P100 GPUs that have a peak throughout of around 10 TFlops. V100 GPUs, or the RTX 2080 Ti/RTX Titan, have north of 100 TFlops.

So it’d be interesting for them to update their performance figures with current GPUs. It likely would run at much higher frame rates.

Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by gattilorenz »

reaperducer wrote: post #8
magnetic wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the laminated binder is not a nominal case, thankfully. Think of it as a cache miss. Most checkout clerks have memorized the codes and don't refer to the binder anymore. Perhaps you saw a new employee. Also, many fruits/veggies have stickers on them with the code (either numeric or bar-code) so you don't have to do a lookup into "the binder". That's how you can easily go through the "self checkout" lanes (…

many fruits/veggies have stickers on them with the code IME, too often the sticker isn't useful because it's fallen off, or is obscured by the green eco-friendly produce bags. That's how you can easily go through the "self checkout" lanes I don't use self-checkout, on principle. I'd rather wait in line three minutes than cost a minimum-wage checkout person their job. It's often key to have a differentiator in the for…

OT, but...

> I don't use self-checkout, on principle. I'd rather wait in line three minutes than cost a minimum-wage checkout person their job

Thanks for stating this, I never realized the potential connection between the two. I'm going to do the same thing from now on.

Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by hasseio »

reaperducer wrote: post #3

Somewhat OT, but standing in line at the grocery store checkout last night I couldn't help but wonder why so many billions are being spent on complex visual problems like self-driving cars, then at the same time the checkout clerk has to look in a laminated binder and then manually punch in a code number to get a price for bananas. (Happens at both big chains around here — Safeway and Kroger alliances.) Surely with a…

In Australia the 'binder' is builtin to the cash register. A simple touch interface allows the checkout clerk to select the vege/fruit that currently being weighted on the scanning platform.

Re: Fast and accurate object detection in high resolution 4K and 8K video using GPUs

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Post by Razengan »

reaperducer wrote: post #3

Somewhat OT, but standing in line at the grocery store checkout last night I couldn't help but wonder why so many billions are being spent on complex visual problems like self-driving cars, then at the same time the checkout clerk has to look in a laminated binder and then manually punch in a code number to get a price for bananas. (Happens at both big chains around here — Safeway and Kroger alliances.) Surely with a…

> I couldn't help but wonder why so many billions are being spent

I wonder the same about why shops need to be manned at all.

Vending machines have been a solved problem since many decades.

Just supersize them. A secure warehouse connected to a few external despensers won’t even take up as much space as a full brick-and-mortar store that people need to walk around in.

Chalk this up as another example of things that should have been commonplace 20 years ago but didn’t.

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