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Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Post by chc4 »

minimaxir wrote: post #16
Reedx wrote: post #7

> ...has popularized the battle royale category — think Lord of the Flies meets Hunger Games — almost single-handedly... Almost single-handedly? This is a bizarre claim and it's like rewriting history.

This can be debated. Although Rust/H1Z1/PUBG were certainly popular battle royale games before Fortnite, Fortnite was the only one that brought it mainstream , outside the hardcore gamer ecosystem.

I'm sorry? PUBG sold 50 million copies. It is the 5th highest selling game in history. You can't honestly claim that's not mainstream.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Post by eknkc »

usaphp wrote: post #6

What does HN people think on the whole idea of stealing concept from PUBG? I am kind of divided on this topic.

PUBG makes a lot of money still so no harm done. And the game concept is kind of different. I don’t enjoy Fortnite but spent many hours on PUBG. I’d say let them steal, that’s how new genres are born.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Post by thedaemon »

jVinc wrote: post #26
minimaxir wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can be debated. Although Rust/H1Z1/PUBG were certainly popular battle royale games before Fortnite, Fortnite was the only one that brought it mainstream , outside the hardcore gamer ecosystem.

Battle royal was already popular enough for Epic to drop everything they had and shift focus to the genere without any doubt that it was the correct thing to do. To give them credit for the popularity of the genre is to rewrite history.

This is exactly it! Fortnite was a team based fps/rts before it saw the cash cow that is the Battle Royale.

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Post by symisc_devel »

mbesto wrote: post #10

> Epic grossed a $3 billion profit for this year What does this even mean? Net income? Top line gross profit (meaning minus COGS), which is normally like 80% GM for heavily software enabled businesses? Ugh, tech reporters.

Pure profit after taxes apparently.

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Post by subway »

minimaxir wrote: post #16
Reedx wrote: post #7

> ...has popularized the battle royale category — think Lord of the Flies meets Hunger Games — almost single-handedly... Almost single-handedly? This is a bizarre claim and it's like rewriting history.

This can be debated. Although Rust/H1Z1/PUBG were certainly popular battle royale games before Fortnite, Fortnite was the only one that brought it mainstream , outside the hardcore gamer ecosystem.

You can even trace it back even earlier to Arma2 and DayZ (mod).

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Post by MrMember »

cristiancavalli wrote: post #15
usaphp wrote: post #6

What does HN people think on the whole idea of stealing concept from PUBG? I am kind of divided on this topic.

It’s interesting becuase I saw PUBG as an adaptation of Sa-Matras excellent Arma 3 wasteland mod which included all of the elements seen in fortnite/pubg like: scavenging firearms, building and free-for-all/teamwork choice through the Blufor/Opfor/Independent team selection. https://wasteland.arma.su

The lead designer on PUBG, Brendan Greene, had previously made a Battle Royale Arma 2 mod.

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Post by thedaemon »

PurpleBoxDragon wrote: post #18
usaphp wrote: post #6

What does HN people think on the whole idea of stealing concept from PUBG? I am kind of divided on this topic.

I don't really see it any different than stealing the concept of FPS from companies that came before, or from stealing the concept of video games from the original creators. I see no issue with it, much like I see no issue with all sorts of games borrowing from LOTR (or from other sources that eventually trace their way back to LOTR). Even PUBG stole the concept from others. It reminds me a lot of Hunger Games actual…

It's all literally the name of a film and novel, Battle Royale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film)

Re: Epic Games banked a $3B profit in 2018

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Post by jjeaff »

mbesto wrote: post #10

> Epic grossed a $3 billion profit for this year What does this even mean? Net income? Top line gross profit (meaning minus COGS), which is normally like 80% GM for heavily software enabled businesses? Ugh, tech reporters.

Yes, gross profit is usually understood as revenue minus cogs. But it doesn't seem like the reporter is using it correctly here.
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