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Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Post by mdhen »

mikestew wrote: post #56
javery wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do this, just set your phone to Do Not Disturb and then set it to "allow calls from my contacts"

I've seen that, but doesn't it take SMS/iMessages with it? IOW, I won't be notified of messages no matter who sends it? Regardless, it's just phone calls I want to block, I don't get enough spam SMS to care about who is sending it. I guess I'm going to have to fiddle around with when the wife gets home and gather some empirical evidence.

On Samsung phones you can allow texts from noon contact numbers even if you are blocking calls. You also can allow any alarms through.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Post by maccard »

nikanj wrote: post #133
awakeasleep wrote: post #14

"At the telelphony-infrastructure level, it’s a supremely difficult problem that lacks a short-term fix because the underlying protocol is hopelessly insecure." This is only partly true. Technologically the solution is difficult, but it's easy from the social side as carriers can blacklist the smaller carriers that allow this fraud to take place. The real problem is that everyone except the consumer benefits from thi…

I’d be happy to have a SPF like framework for calls. The phone number blocks are allocated to companies, and it should be trivial to ensure the incoming call comes from the legitimate holder of the block. Add an authorized user api so you can still use your number in outgoing calls with Skype etc. After number faking is fixed, I can safely ignore all calls from foreign countries and weird area codes.

> I can safely ignore all calls from foreign countries and weird area codes

Most of the real phone calls I get (my insurance company, my phone company ) that aren't from know contacts are from weird area codes. I like the authorised user idea though, especially if legit companies adhere to it.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Post by oh_sigh »

amelius wrote: post #122
elbelcho wrote: post #102

Check out Google's call screening feature available on their Pixel phones https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9118387?hl=en

That's nice for keeping marketeers out, but meanwhile you're sharing all your info with the largest advertiser on the planet ...

No it doesn't:

https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9118387?hl=en

> Call Screen doesn't save to your Google Account, your Google Assistant Activity page, or to Web and App Activity.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Post by chiph »

maccard wrote: post #142
nikanj wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d be happy to have a SPF like framework for calls. The phone number blocks are allocated to companies, and it should be trivial to ensure the incoming call comes from the legitimate holder of the block. Add an authorized user api so you can still use your number in outgoing calls with Skype etc. After number faking is fixed, I can safely ignore all calls from foreign countries and weird area codes.

> I can safely ignore all calls from foreign countries and weird area codes Most of the real phone calls I get (my insurance company, my phone company ) that aren't from know contacts are from weird area codes. I like the authorised user idea though, especially if legit companies adhere to it.

I've gotten them from the same area code and exchange as my mobile. It all depends on whether they can get a number they can use that will look reasonable to sufficient numbers of people to get them to pick up.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Post by kabdib »

thatswrong0 wrote: post #4

I would love to be able to block all numbers coming from my area code and the first 3 digits of my number.. all my robo calls come from a number that looks just like mine.

More recent robocalls that I've been getting have had the same area code and a slightly different prefix. More difficult to ignore. I assume it's just as easy to fake these numbers as others.

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Post by TheSoftwareGuy »

timbit42 wrote: post #113
thatswrong0 wrote: post #4

I would love to be able to block all numbers coming from my area code and the first 3 digits of my number.. all my robo calls come from a number that looks just like mine.

I use an app called Should I Answer? It uses crowd sourcing to collect robocalling numbers. My phone doesn't even ring for most of the robocalls now, and the ones it misses, I can add to their database so others won't get them.

I've literally been robocalled from my own number before. I don't think this would work

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Post by darkpuma »

rock_hard wrote: post #125
redisman wrote: post #111

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Sounds like a 100x better solution than the US where I literally receive spam multiple times per day as phone calls. Why don't you go innovate on something useful?

The US situation is also not ideal...but there is also solution in the middle

There is no need for a solution in the middle. Whatever sort of robocall "innovation" you have in mind, the world is better off without it.
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