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Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#81

imo the best way to combat this is to answer the call and waste as much of the scammers time as possible. Call spamming only scales because most people ignore or hangup immediately. If you waste 30seconds of a scammers time thats 30 more people they cant call. And that 30 seconds costs THEM money. I just answer say “hi” to start the recording and leave the phone on my desk until they hangup. Perhaps i dont completely…

How much is your time worth vs the robocallers ?

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#82

"At the telelphony-infrastructure level, it’s a supremely difficult problem that lacks a short-term fix because the underlying protocol is hopelessly insecure." This is only partly true. Technologically the solution is difficult, but it's easy from the social side as carriers can blacklist the smaller carriers that allow this fraud to take place. The real problem is that everyone except the consumer benefits from thi…

There already is a proposed technological solution to this: https://transnexus.com/whitepapers/stir-and-shaken-overview/

The FCC has recently "demanded" US telecoms to implement this [0], but at this point I don't believe there is actually a regulatory requirement to do so.

[0] https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-354933A1.pdf

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#83

I would love to be able to block all numbers coming from my area code and the first 3 digits of my number.. all my robo calls come from a number that looks just like mine.

I just switched to Hiya from Nomorobo and the premium version allows for this, referred to as the "neighbor scam". It's worked really well, between my number and Gvoice I was getting 50 of these calls a week.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#84

It is a phone. If you need uninterrupted productivity, use any other type of personal computing device.

> It is a phone. If you need uninterrupted productivity, use any other type of personal computing device. Phones have stopped being just phones for a while now. Modern smartphones are full fledged computing devices and are a key productivity tool for many users. Personally I hardly even use the phone feature to justify calling my device a phone. I make maybe one or two traditional phone calls a month, as most of my d…

With VoLTE and wi-fi calls, even the majority of my phone calls are technically over the Internet.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#85
post #73

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This is a really good idea in theory but my understanding is that a lot of these calls come in from spoofed numbers. So if you're the unlucky person whose number the spammers choose to spoof that day you're already in for a giant headache - getting your phone number blocked would add insult to injury.

When the client of the robocaller who wants to sell something is fined then there are soon no more orders for robocaller.

And if you implement that, then you'll get the blackhat approach of paying the robocaller to advertise your competitor's product.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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post #60

Fwiw, Android actually does do this. When the phone is unlocked, calls show up as a banner. In addition, they added that new call screening option, I've been using it and so far it has worked fairly well. Also, there is some built-in call filtering and third party apps as well, though I have mostly been able to rely on the built-in filtering. Does iOS really not have any options for filtering? I swear last time I had…

i was jailbroken made me think of i was heartbroken :-)

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#87
> I would love to be able to block all numbers coming from my area code and the first 3 digits of my number.. all my robo calls come from a number that looks just like mine

Somewhat humorously, this has destroyed my ability to receive phone calls from my home town. I instinctively hang up and block.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#88
Because my phone number is not from where I actually live and most of these robocallers fake a number from your local exchange, seeing a number that looks like mine pop up basically tells me right away it’s a robocall since nobody calls me from that exchange. Whole thing is still incredibly annoying though and problem is getting worse.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#89

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do you iive outside the U.S.?

I like in the UK and get maybe 5 robocalls a year. I'm not at all cautious about giving out my phone number and I've had the same number for at least 10 years. Why is this such a problem in America but not elsewhere?

i am guessing that robocalls go after specific demographics. so people in more popular groups get more calls than others

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

#90
post #30

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You can do this, just set your phone to Do Not Disturb and then set it to "allow calls from my contacts"

I've seen that, but doesn't it take SMS/iMessages with it? IOW, I won't be notified of messages no matter who sends it? Regardless, it's just phone calls I want to block, I don't get enough spam SMS to care about who is sending it. I guess I'm going to have to fiddle around with when the wife gets home and gather some empirical evidence.

> I've seen that, but doesn't it take SMS/iMessages with it?

Indeed it does, which makes it a non-solution for me. I apparently have the same desire you do - an option for voice calls to go direct to voicemail unless they are in my favorites list, without having to use the more general Do Not Disturb mode.

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