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Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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the GDPR data takeout option (maybe only for european users) contains a lot of creepy shit (essentially every click and mouse movement), but no audio data

It's not creepy. Discord tracks mouse movements to tell when you're hovering over something and tracks clicks to tell when you've clicked on something. It's just how the client works.

It is. Because this data does not need to be transmitted for this to work.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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You can bet that they save every audio sample you generate.

the GDPR data takeout option (maybe only for european users) contains a lot of creepy shit (essentially every click and mouse movement), but no audio data

I tried that. The lack of mentioning voice data in their privacy page is disturbing.

Except one mention:

>Developers: Developers using our SDK or API will have access to their end users’ information, including message content, message metadata, and voice metadata.

Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere.

Also,

>... your activities within the Services

is very vague. The lack of mentioning voice data is probably because of the huge backlash. Wiretapping every user.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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post #261

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It's not creepy. Discord tracks mouse movements to tell when you're hovering over something and tracks clicks to tell when you've clicked on something. It's just how the client works.

It is. Because this data does not need to be transmitted for this to work.

Are you a Discord developer? It does need to be transmitted for it to work based on how Discord is made. Your argument would be better written as, "I believe Discord could be made differently for this not to be needed."

I did see a video or article on it earlier, I wish I still knew where to find that.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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post #261

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It is. Because this data does not need to be transmitted for this to work.

Are you a Discord developer? It does need to be transmitted for it to work based on how Discord is made. Your argument would be better written as, "I believe Discord could be made differently for this not to be needed." I did see a video or article on it earlier, I wish I still knew where to find that.

Common sense. It does not. In fact I just tried it. Went offline, and clicked some settings in the Discord program. It worked. Chat messages from a channel also worked (those preloaded of course) and clicking a link opens the browser. No need for sending cursor information anywhere for this to work.

So tell me again, why does Discord need cursor movements to work?

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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To reverse it, I can't really think of anything skype does better than discord in a mildly gaming context honestly.

Discord isn't owned by Microsoft, everyone uses it, and it runs in my browser. That's more than enough reason to never touch the flaming pile of shit that Skype is today, thanks to corporate development strategies and bloat.

Isn't Discord free model based on selling data to 3rd parties? What is their business model?

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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I must be a mammoth, as I still use Skype for gaming. What does Discord offer, that Skype doesn't, and Steam is running anyway too? Lately Skype became too buggy to use as IM, but sound is still solid.

> What does Discord offer, that Skype doesn't How about "Not being too buggy to use as IM"?

That is the shenanigan of this summer or so.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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post #262

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the GDPR data takeout option (maybe only for european users) contains a lot of creepy shit (essentially every click and mouse movement), but no audio data

I tried that. The lack of mentioning voice data in their privacy page is disturbing. Except one mention: >Developers: Developers using our SDK or API will have access to their end users’ information, including message content, message metadata, and voice metadata. Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere. Also, >... your activities within the Services is very vague.…

> Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere.

That's not necessarily true. "voice metadata" could be things like quality settings, latency history, when you join a voice channel, when you leave a voice channel, etc. It may have a lot of metadata about it without actually storing the audio streams.

A phone PBX will have tons of metadata about calls placed through it, but it might not bother recording every call that goes through it.

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