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Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by u801e »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #61
n-gate wrote: post #24

Can I get a quick vim vs emacs usage vote here? Not looking for a war. Just a usage vote. I will try and update results. Feel free to reply with your daily hours too Results below- small sample but makes me wonder about stack overflow survey about vim being thrice as used as emacs. I am a very loyal vim user but I would wager that those results were influenced by the occasional vim user. What are others thoughts on t…

Vim. Vim's command-line is more alien to the last 4 or 5 gui-bred younger generations of programmers. Learning to master it is therefore more of a badge of hounour, and for that, more sought-after, than learning to master Emacs. Personally, I'd rather have Vim, but with Emacs-Lisp as a scripting language. That would rock.:x

> Personally, I'd rather have Vim, but with Emacs-Lisp as a scripting language

Vim does have a scheme language binding such that vimscript can call an embedded script written in scheme, and that scheme script can interface with vim. This is also the case for other languages like perl, python, ruby, tcl, and several other languages.

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by vvillena »

kungtotte wrote: post #52
village-idiot wrote: post #34

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Compared to VS Code? Come now.

Spacemacs with a mostly standard config has similar load times as VSCode (2-3 seconds)...

There's nothing standard about Spacemacs. It's a tremendously useful premade config, but it's not indicative of the performance of the Emacs environment.

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by vvillena »

pweissbrod wrote: post #70
ai_ia wrote: post #50

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Emacs because of Org Mode.

Vim also supports org mode as well. Not quite as nice as emacs but it gets the job done for me

Syntax highlighting and basic outline support is not orgmode. Orgmode is an agenda, a smart task scheduler, a spaced repetition learning system, a publishing environment, a literate code tool, a knowledge base...

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by kungtotte »

vvillena wrote: post #72
kungtotte wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spacemacs with a mostly standard config has similar load times as VSCode (2-3 seconds)...

There's nothing standard about Spacemacs. It's a tremendously useful premade config, but it's not indicative of the performance of the Emacs environment.

I know, but featurewise it's on par with VSCode with things like git integration and auto-suggestion etc. so I feel like it's a fair comparison.

Do you think vanilla Emacs with the same amount of packages would be much faster (without getting into tricks like a daemon)?

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by kungtotte »

village-idiot wrote: post #66
kungtotte wrote: post #52

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Spacemacs with a mostly standard config has similar load times as VSCode (2-3 seconds)...

I’ve never understood the load time argument about IDEs, I probably restart my IDE whenever I do os upgrades every other week or so. This is true when I use IntelliJ, Emacs, or VS Code. Any of these could take 30s or longer to start for all I care. The issue with VS Code is that it’s more memory hungry than google chrome. More than once I’ve caught it using half a gig of memory, with various instances of flow using u…

I prefer using one editor for every task. This means both coding and quick config edits or jotting down notes. So while I often keep an instance up for hours, I also open and close it frequently enough that load time is enough of an issue.

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #60
_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #39

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Nano just exists to fool my fingers with its quarter implementation of Emacs bindings, and I end up deleting half of the file's contents.

>> I end up deleting half of the file's contents. Are you sure you're not using vim?

Nah, vim's modal. True, one of those modes is 'break everything', but the other mode is 'beeping furiously', so I generally notice I'm not in emacs pretty quickly.

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

na85 wrote: post #45
hollerith wrote: post #27

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have you actually used emacs on a cpu made in the last 20 years and found it to be slow? compared to vim or bash, it is cpu intensive. compared to any of the graphical apps that come with a mac, it is easier on the cpu (and on RAM).

It's hella slow to start up, of course, even on my 2017 mbp. Chugs when scrolling depending on active modes, too.

Launch it as a daemon and instantly connect via emacsclient.

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #61
n-gate wrote: post #24

Can I get a quick vim vs emacs usage vote here? Not looking for a war. Just a usage vote. I will try and update results. Feel free to reply with your daily hours too Results below- small sample but makes me wonder about stack overflow survey about vim being thrice as used as emacs. I am a very loyal vim user but I would wager that those results were influenced by the occasional vim user. What are others thoughts on t…

Vim. Vim's command-line is more alien to the last 4 or 5 gui-bred younger generations of programmers. Learning to master it is therefore more of a badge of hounour, and for that, more sought-after, than learning to master Emacs. Personally, I'd rather have Vim, but with Emacs-Lisp as a scripting language. That would rock.:x

Look into Evil.

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by stevekemp »

n-gate wrote: post #54
stevekemp wrote: post #53

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Indeed I use emacs for all "real" editing, but I use vim for composing emails - in my own console-based mail-client.

Does your DNS hosting solution allows for routing to least latency geographically closest host?

No.

It just lets you setup "standard" record-types, such as A, AAAA, MX, etc.

Re: Emacs Fireplace

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Post by na85 »

_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #77
na85 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hella slow to start up, of course, even on my 2017 mbp. Chugs when scrolling depending on active modes, too.

Launch it as a daemon and instantly connect via emacsclient.

I should do that, but it seems like a Band-Aid solution to the real problem which is poor performance.
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