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FSJ: Why Dell will not bounce back

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Re: FSJ: Why Dell will not bounce back

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Dell makes cheap functional machines. Apple makes expensive consumerist lifestyle fashion. In the current economic environment Apple is a better short than Dell.

Good observation, bad conclusion. If Apple had to sell as many computers as Dell to survive, then maybe it would overextend its market and be worth shorting. Since Apple sells relatively few computers, there are lots of people who settle for a Dell but dream of an Apple. If your customers would jump ship the first chance they get, you're not a good long bet.

Re: FSJ: Why Dell will not bounce back

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The real genius and power of China lies in its armies of low-cost and brilliant engineers. Seen a Lenovo box lately? Heck of a lot nicer than anything Dell is pooping out from its factory in Round Rock. Yeah, right. AFAIK all Lenovo engineering and design is done in the same ex-IBM engineering US-based campus and I am personally get scared every time new Thinkpads come out, because when Lenovo transfers engineering t…

Lenovo is already making the Thinkpads suck. For example, they use shitty LCDs because they have some pride issue buying components from Japan and Korea, and therefore get second-rate LCDs instead. On my T61, there is a slot for an xD card (which my camera uses), but for some reason Lenovo has disabled that reader in hardware. It shows up in Linux, but can't read the media. What the fuck ? Anyway, the hardware is sol…

I've been really pleased with the quality on the Dell XPS line. Comparing it to the new T61 I got for work, the Dell seems better in every way with the exception of the lack of a force mouse in the middle of the keyboard.

Re: FSJ: Why Dell will not bounce back

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The real genius and power of China lies in its armies of low-cost and brilliant engineers. Seen a Lenovo box lately? Heck of a lot nicer than anything Dell is pooping out from its factory in Round Rock. Yeah, right. AFAIK all Lenovo engineering and design is done in the same ex-IBM engineering US-based campus and I am personally get scared every time new Thinkpads come out, because when Lenovo transfers engineering t…

After reading that line, I went to Lenovo.de and clicked on desktop pcs. The result was a "page not found page". Maybe I'll try again in 10 years or so... AFAIK Dell and Apple are still the only retailers where you can buy build on demand computers.

They're not. You can get custom machines from www.powernotebooks.com, and their prices do beat both Apple's and Dells.

I also recall the press release when Asustek won the contract for Apple's MacBook... though I don't remember whether it was Acer or Crown that won the contract for the MacBook Pro.

Re: FSJ: Why Dell will not bounce back

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

apple's "expensive consumerist lifestyle fashion," as you call it, is now the de facto standard hacker machine, used by dhh, the inventor of ruby on rails, by pg himself, and too many others to mention.

You're confusing Macs-the-hardware with UNIX they run. Yes, all hackers work on UNIX of some sort. And even then, OSX requires a quite a bit of work to get it up to Linux levels of hacker friendliness.

dhh recently switched from a macbook pro to a macbook air. does that sound like somebody who's in it just for the unix underpinnings? i think not.

Re: FSJ: Why Dell will not bounce back

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

After reading that line, I went to Lenovo.de and clicked on desktop pcs. The result was a "page not found page". Maybe I'll try again in 10 years or so... AFAIK Dell and Apple are still the only retailers where you can buy build on demand computers.

They're not. You can get custom machines from www.powernotebooks.com, and their prices do beat both Apple's and Dells. I also recall the press release when Asustek won the contract for Apple's MacBook... though I don't remember whether it was Acer or Crown that won the contract for the MacBook Pro.

I am not saying that other manufacturers are not capable of building stuff that way. But they don't let you assemble your desired PC via web. OK, except maybe for powernotebooks, but I don't know them well enough to trust them yet.
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