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Re: Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest

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Post by travsamsis »

China does this kind of crap to other countries as well when the government decides it needs to act like an crybaby/bully. The world needs to boycott or sanction China in response.

US: Chinese companies are threatening to punish employees caught using Apple products. War on Christmas 2018.

Japan: government called for boycott against Honda, Toyota Korea back in 2012 during the Senkaku island dispute

South Korea: government called for boycott against Lotte and Samsung after THAAD incident in 2016.

Sweden: China accuses Sweden of !human rights violation! after a tourist incident late this year.

Re: Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest

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Post by devoply »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #10
devoply wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and statements by President Trump as noted above throw that whole notion out of the window. There are plenty of other cases out there as well. The US justice system is often used as a tool by corporate interests to bully people and make examples of them. It leaves much to be desired in terms of being a fair judicial system that serves everyone equally. Even the point of contention is ridiculous. Don't export anyt…

Trump doesn't control the judiciary.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/04/us/politics/t...

Re: Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest

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Post by gpm »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The us involved Canada in this trade war on purpose by issuing this arrest warrant that we had to execute because of our legal agreements with the us. Now the Chinese is retailating against us and we will have to respond. Great. It would be one thing if we had willingly decided to get involved but this is us being forced to get involved.

This is us choosing to help enforce sanctions against Iran, when we have sanctions against Iran ourselves. The only reason she's being extradited instead of charged locally is that she was dealing with American companies instead of Canadian companies. It's entirely consistent with treaty, and the rule of law. As such it is the right action regardless of any trade war with China. (As I understand it... I would like a more in depth analysis of the legal situation than any of the news articles I saw had)

If China can't handle us following and enforcing our laws, we should stop trading with them, not stop enforcing the law.

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Post by makoz »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #10
devoply wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and statements by President Trump as noted above throw that whole notion out of the window. There are plenty of other cases out there as well. The US justice system is often used as a tool by corporate interests to bully people and make examples of them. It leaves much to be desired in terms of being a fair judicial system that serves everyone equally. Even the point of contention is ridiculous. Don't export anyt…

Trump doesn't control the judiciary.

Couldn't he pardon her?

Re: Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest

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Post by fro0116 »

rubatuga wrote: post #13

It would be great if instead of rallying for boycotts, they could rally for the release of the two Canadians that disappeared.

I'm not as well educated on these events as I'd like to be. Can anyone point to some unbiased (as much as possible) sources on what charges the Huawei CFO was arrested for, and what charges the Canadians in China were arrested for?

On the face of it the arrests read like blatent retaliation from China, but I'd like to know more about the full circumstances.

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Post by nimbius »

The US obsession with huawei is at best, a corporate witch-hunt. Its a case of wanting to have your cake, and eat it too.

You cannot spend 40 years outsourcing manufacturing for near-term profit, and expect to maintain longer term revenue as a market leader. Sooner or later, your cheap manufacturers will outpace you in quality, price, and features.

Just ask Harley Davidson. Their solution to high quality competition from Yamaha and Honda was, albeit less aggressive than this, protectionist legislation.

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Post by briandear »

devoply wrote: post #7
throwaway2048 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of an extradition treaty is you beleive the other country has a reasonably fair and just justice system, or at least one roughly comparable to your own. If you force a full trial for extradition, there is no point to treaties like that to begin with.

Yes and statements by President Trump as noted above throw that whole notion out of the window. There are plenty of other cases out there as well. The US justice system is often used as a tool by corporate interests to bully people and make examples of them. It leaves much to be desired in terms of being a fair judicial system that serves everyone equally. Even the point of contention is ridiculous. Don't export anyt…

The executive branch is not the judicial branch. Unlike China, the US actually has an independent judiciary. And, in this case, what “corporate interest” is driving this? This is a case concerning Iranian sanctions — American companies would love to be able to sell to Iran (or anyone for that matter.) how does it support US corporate interests to prosecute sanctions violations (involving US manufactured equipment?)

And millions aren’t starving in Saudi Arabia. Saudi’s Arabia is also ostensibly an ally that doesn’t point potential nuclear weapons at its neighbors. Saudi does have plenty of problems, but the Iran situation is one of a hostile regime threatening the region with nuclear weapons. A regime that actually promotes “death to America” and promotes the total destruction of Israel. The Saudis and the Israelis don’t publicly get along, but they tend to leave each other alone and cooperate under the radar, while Iran is a state sponsor of Hezbollah and pursuing nuclear weapons. A state sponsor of terrorism mixed with nuclear weapons? A pretty dangerous combination. There is no comparison with Saudi Arabia.

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Post by netheril96 »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #10
devoply wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and statements by President Trump as noted above throw that whole notion out of the window. There are plenty of other cases out there as well. The US justice system is often used as a tool by corporate interests to bully people and make examples of them. It leaves much to be desired in terms of being a fair judicial system that serves everyone equally. Even the point of contention is ridiculous. Don't export anyt…

Trump doesn't control the judiciary.

He controls the prosecution, which is in the executive branch. He could achieve all of those in your parent post without controlling the judiciary.

I am not saying that your parent post is correct, only possible.

Re: Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest

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Post by DeonPenny »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The us involved Canada in this trade war on purpose by issuing this arrest warrant that we had to execute because of our legal agreements with the us. Now the Chinese is retailating against us and we will have to respond. Great. It would be one thing if we had willingly decided to get involved but this is us being forced to get involved.

The bigger problem is that someone your economically locked to retaliated with kidnapping Canadian citizens over the arrest of the owner of a company. It'd be like Canada arresting Salena Gomez just because justin bieber did illegal things in the US. It's a slippery slope to just allow countries to pressure each other in that way.
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