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Mom Lets Her Kids Walk to the Bakery Down the Block. CPS Chastises Her

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Re: Mom Lets Her Kids Walk to the Bakery Down the Block. CPS Chastises Her

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Post by ilikehurdles »

usaphp wrote: post #52
ilikehurdles wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has nothing to do with immigration. I was out walking to school, going to the bakery, sledding, etc with friends in Germany throughout the 90s from like age 6.

Hey, I was at a war and did not get injured, now I am totally sure no one ever gets injured on wars, because I was not injured! Hey I drive my car for 30 years without a seatbelt and was never injured, it surely means that seatbelts are useless and you can’t really get injured in a car, so why even bother with protection?

> Hey, there's this deep issue that involves comparing how several vastly different nations with complex histories approach a problem. Let's take a shortcut and blame everything bad on race and immigration, because that's what we've been doing for hundreds of years and why should we stop now!

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Post by cscalfani »

bradenb wrote: post #8

I wonder how we got to this. I'm all for parents being protective over children that aren't theirs, but when did we develop the entitlement that we should police the parents of other children? Obligatory "When I grew up...": When I grew up (I'm 32), there were still murderers, kidnappers, drug dealers, gangs, etc. My parents and the parents of all my friends let us roam free from the minute we finished our chores unt…

Blame the 24 hour news cycle.

Re: Mom Lets Her Kids Walk to the Bakery Down the Block. CPS Chastises Her

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Post by ibash »

usaphp wrote: post #53
ams6110 wrote: post #12

I biked all over my Midwest USA neighborhood, to and from school, and beyond from the time I was about 8, maybe even younger. This was in the 1970s. It would have been unthinkable for anyone to be overly worried about it, much less report it to the authorities, because that's what almost all the kids did.

The kid in article was 3 years old. There is a big difference between a 3 year old kid and an 8 year old.

The kid in the article was with their 7 year old sibling and within sight of their parent.

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

candiodari wrote: post #64
icelancer wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Greater access to television and the evening news ritual did us in. Watching constant daily reports on murders and robberies in your city tends to cause people to think that the sky is falling, when of course, crime has been collapsing since the 1990s. [0] In fairness to the current generation of parents in their late 30s to early 50s, violent crime spiked dramatically in the 1990s and has only recently returned to 1…

I don't understand how you think. This is exactly the outcome you'd expect given the incentives created. And yet you blame TV. As if people are really that stupid. They're not. They're simply incentivized to act this way by the existence of child services. They're not so stupid as to be swayed by the idiot box. We're stupid because we don't understand the system we've put in place and are now amazed that we're gettin…

> And yet you blame TV.

I'm sorry, I didn't read the rest of your wall. However, I certainly blame TV. Specifically John Walsh in the 1980's[0]. He scared the crap out of a lot of people in the 80's. Every neighbor was a potential pedophile, murderer, rapist and so you saw a shift in the way people parented.

[0] The guy's kid was abducted and murdered, so I get he did what he felt he needed to do.

Re: Mom Lets Her Kids Walk to the Bakery Down the Block. CPS Chastises Her

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Post by candiodari »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #74
candiodari wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how you think. This is exactly the outcome you'd expect given the incentives created. And yet you blame TV. As if people are really that stupid. They're not. They're simply incentivized to act this way by the existence of child services. They're not so stupid as to be swayed by the idiot box. We're stupid because we don't understand the system we've put in place and are now amazed that we're gettin…

> And yet you blame TV. I'm sorry, I didn't read the rest of your wall. However, I certainly blame TV. Specifically John Walsh in the 1980's[0]. He scared the crap out of a lot of people in the 80's. Every neighbor was a potential pedophile, murderer, rapist and so you saw a shift in the way people parented. [0] The guy's kid was abducted and murdered, so I get he did what he felt he needed to do.

Read it anyway. How child services works, how it must work if it exists, definitely changes how people raise children because of the threat such services represent to families.

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Post by Markoff »

for all people saying what they were doing when they were young while crime rate was higher - was also the traffic higher or lower? it's rhetorical question, I have zero worries about kidnappings and other reasons regarding my children but when i see how are people driving and how big it's the traffic i am worried at what age i will let my children walk by themselves

i was actually thinking about letting my 3yo go to kindergarten by himself as teaching him independence since it's like 100m walk, but there is one road to cross and most importantly he is too weak to open door on both buildings, will see if he will be stronger by age 5-6 :)

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