I think having the ability to have a home equity line is reason enough to buy. That's 100-200 thousand dollars credit you have at your disposal for a rainy day. And unlike credit cards its not at 30% apr.
Homeowner vs. Renter: Why Should You Ever Buy a House (at all)?
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#22Surely arguing that renting is cheaper than owning implies that landlords make a loss - which I'm sure is very rare.
Wouldn't it be kind of zero-sum? Either you live in the house yourself, than the calculations apply, or you live somewhere else, but then (simplified) your rent equals the rent your renters pay, so it cancels out and the calculations would still be correct.
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#23It is rather ridiculous that this author would not include the simple fact that rents nearly always go up... especially over 30 years.
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#24Surely arguing that renting is cheaper than owning implies that landlords make a loss - which I'm sure is very rare.
What makes you think it is rare? Genuine interest, I have no knowledge about it. I know cases were renters pay less than the monthly rates paying of the credit for buying the house. Wouldn't it be kind of zero-sum? Either you live in the house yourself, than the calculations apply, or you live somewhere else, but then (simplified) your rent equals the rent your renters pay, so it cancels out and the calculations woul…
I'm sure other landlords make a very good profit month to month also. But if landlords were making a loss in real terms over years, they would probably stop doing it.
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#25One thing nobody seems to mention is that the owner has to pay for the maintenance of the home, while the renter doesn't. Over a 30 year period there will be quite a lot to do.
If you don't want the hassle of actually dealing with maintenance, you can purchase something like a condominium, where a management firm handles the maintenance and you write a cheque each month.
So... I'm suggesting the maintenance issue is orthogonal to the ownership issue.
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#26This may hold true, in certain areas, if you keep the same house for 30 years. I read somewhere that the average American home changes ownership every 11.9 years. I did a quick calculation on the percentage ROI after 1 year of owning a $300K house. home cost: $300,000 10% down payment: $30,000 30/yr mortgage @ 6%: $1,618.79 tax at 1.25%: $312.50 maintenance/misc: $200.00 actual mortgage payment: $2,131.29 investment…
You're also missing homeowners insurance which would probably end up being close to $200/month for a 300k house.
You ROI doesn't really make sense to me.
You're paying a little over $1340 / month in interest, $200 for homeowners insurance, $312 in tax, and $200 for PMI. That's $2052 / month in housing costs where none of that money goes towards principle. Now depending on how you're doing your taxes, most of that is tax deductible, so lets say that's going to save you about 20% of that - $19,700 is the cost of your housing per year ($1,641 / month).
Furthermore, 4% growth isn't guaranteed - especially with the current housing slump. The growth in housing experienced from the late 90's - early 2007 will likely not happen again anytime soon. I thought traditional growth was more like 2-3%. Plus, appreciation has to be considered in the long term. You need to pay capital gains if you sell the house within 2 years and any sunk costs on the house sitting vacant or realtor fees will lower your actual returns on the sale.
So if the house is worth spending $1,641 / month vs. what you could rent for $1,641 OR you plan on living in that house for a significant period of time where the fixed cost of ownership becomes valuable, then buy. If not, renting is still the better option.
For young people who aren't stable and might be moving around, I just don't see the benefit of home ownership, especially in today's uncertain housing market. Once you're ready to settle down, home ownership is a better idea.
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What makes you think it is rare? Genuine interest, I have no knowledge about it. I know cases were renters pay less than the monthly rates paying of the credit for buying the house. Wouldn't it be kind of zero-sum? Either you live in the house yourself, than the calculations apply, or you live somewhere else, but then (simplified) your rent equals the rent your renters pay, so it cancels out and the calculations woul…
Of course. I'm sure it's common in some parts that landlords make a loss in month to month terms, but then once the mortgage is paid off they own it and sell it, and it's gone up massively in price. Maybe that's their big pay day. I'm sure other landlords make a very good profit month to month also. But if landlords were making a loss in real terms over years, they would probably stop doing it.
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#30Some items the article is glossing over: First, the rental value doesn't take into account inflation. House payments are fixed, which means it gets effectively cheaper every year. Meanwhile, rents keep increasing. This means that while you can catch a house at the bottom of a bubble and lock in the price, if you rent in that same area, you'll find rents going way up when the housing bubble rises again. Next, an 800 s…
That's less important than the fact that the country is getting richer (despite wage stagnation). Poorer people can lower their expectations for safety, space, etc, but the richer you get, the more you want. I moved from 800sf in an old high rise to 1000sf in a suburban apartment complex to an 1800sf house within 2 years as I got out of school and my income increased. I could save 60% if I had stayed in my apartment, but I'd rather pay extra.