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Re: CSS grid garden

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Post by reaperducer »

tzs wrote: post #53
reaperducer wrote: post #40

This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…

> [...] only to discover that once I found an old machine in a closet that has IE11 on it [...] MS has free downloadable virtual machine images to help with that kind of testing. They have IE8, IE9, IE10, and IE11 Win7 VMs, an IE11 Win8 VM, and an Edge Win10 VM. They have images for VirtualBox, Vagrant, VMWare, HyperV, and Parallels. Link: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/v...

I tried one of these in VirtualBox on an iMac, and it crashed the computer. Hard. Like locked it up, and after three minutes frozen the thing rebooted. That was when I went searching for an old machine in the IT building.

Re: CSS grid garden

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Post by reaperducer »

nhebb wrote: post #57
reaperducer wrote: post #40

This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…

caniuse.com is a quick way to look up compatibility issues, e.g. https://caniuse.com/#search=flexbox

You're right, I should have checked. But in my mind it never occurred to me that the final version of IE could be that broken. Lesson learned.

Re: CSS grid garden

#63

Post by talow49 »

reaperducer wrote: post #60
reificator wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution there is to document every moment of your time spent on this issue, alongside the user agent logs, and present that alongside your salary, and present it. Best case, they decide they pay you too much and you cause too much trouble, and let you go. Worst case they make her upgrade her browser so they're not dumping mountains of money on her preferences and whims. Either way, I'd be good with it if I were…

I already document every task I do (my immediate boss requires it). The way I view it is it was good busywork for the weeks before Christmas when not much was getting done anyway. I don't bother fighting it because if they want to waste their money paying me to downgrade a web site for one person, I'm happy to take their money for it.

Chances are if IT upgrade her browser she won't even notice. Just get them to do it.

Or get someone more senior than her to put her in her place.

Re: CSS grid garden

#64

Post by [deleted] »

reaperducer wrote: post #40

This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…

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Re: CSS grid garden

#65

Post by z3t4 »

reaperducer wrote: post #40

This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…

whoa. tables seem like a overkill. something you did back in the IE5 and Netscape days. i would recomend using ei snippets that let you specify css rules that will only run on that version of ie. which have been available since ei 7.

Re: CSS grid garden

#66

Post by wavefunction »

reaperducer wrote: post #40

This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…

I guess I would have just wrapped ie specific css in a conditional.

Re: CSS grid garden

#67

Post by davidcsally »

plahteenlahti wrote: post #52
reaperducer wrote: post #40

This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…

Interested to hear what flexbox features were unsupported? I’ve been in a same kind of situation but was able to support everything on “IE version” of the app by using flexbox.

Most of flexbox is supported in IE11, but some "defaults" are not the same as other browsers --> see the known issues tab if you're interested, most of the time it works but when it doesn't it's frustrating https://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox

Re: CSS grid garden

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Post by IronCoderXYZ »

This is definitely helping my understanding of the grid system, thanks to the author!

The only thing I would suggest is to add some explanations, maybe some mnemonic aids and such. I'd be happy to help.

Re: CSS grid garden

#69

Post by reaperducer »

talow49 wrote: post #63
reaperducer wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I already document every task I do (my immediate boss requires it). The way I view it is it was good busywork for the weeks before Christmas when not much was getting done anyway. I don't bother fighting it because if they want to waste their money paying me to downgrade a web site for one person, I'm happy to take their money for it.

Chances are if IT upgrade her browser she won't even notice. Just get them to do it. Or get someone more senior than her to put her in her place.

Just get them to do it.

It's not a tech company, so it doesn't work that way. IT doesn't tell management what to do, it's the other way around.

get someone more senior than her to put her in her place

To get to someone more senior than her would mean contacting her manager on the other side of the country, who would likely wonder why I'm was wasting her time, and come down on me through my boss. Again, it's not a tech company.

Re: CSS grid garden

#70

Post by amelius »

reaperducer wrote: post #40

This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…

Of course you now present her with some annoying popup boxes and captchas every time she uses the website? >:)
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