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Re: Ask HN: PhD in the UK or US?

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If you already know what you want to do during your Phd, definitely go to the UK. You will be done in 3 years, and the quality of universities is world-class. Everyone is talking about Oxford and Cambridge, but the best rated Computer Science department in the UK is actually in St Andrews[1], the third oldest university in the English-speaking world. It's more focused on software engineering than theoretical mathemat…

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Re: Ask HN: PhD in the UK or US?

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If you have the option then the country is not your primary concern. The quality of your PhD experience is 95% determined by the quality of your supervisor and lab-mates. So you should judge based on that irrespective of the country. How much attention can they give you, how successful have previous students been, etc?

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If you have the option then the country is not your primary concern. The quality of your PhD experience is 95% determined by the quality of your supervisor and lab-mates. So you should judge based on that irrespective of the country. How much attention can they give you, how successful have previous students been, etc?

Absolutely right. Go tour your potential lab and take the grad students out for drinks, without any professors present. Get them to give you the real story: is the professor sane and emotionally stable? Is the work environment supportive? How do graduates from the lab do, do they get good jobs and academic appointments?

Re: Ask HN: PhD in the UK or US?

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The Gatsby group at UCL might be up your alley too. But wherever you sign up, make sure you know exactly what your supervisor is like and what their management style is. Some are very hands off, and you need to make sure you're ok with that.

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The UK will be faster, but that does not mean it will necessarily be better. What are you goals post-PhD? Are trying to stay in Academia? If so, then the US is most likely better.

On the average, US PhD students graduate with more, and higher impact, publications than UK PhD students. The reason for this is that US PhD graduation is typically contingent upon producing two or three significant publications in your field. So you might have to stay for six or seven years, but you will have an established publication record when you leave.

As far as I am aware of, no such publication requirement exists for any UK university. UK PhD graduation is contingent upon completing a thesis and viva (defense) but often times the research within the thesis has not yet been published. There is typically a period after PhD graduation where UK students then focus on publishing.

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You may also wish to compare the funding situation for the various advisors. Each country and university has access to different grants and other sources of funding. You have to keep in mind that doing a PhD is a full-time job. You won't be able to have a part-time job and do quality research, so unless you are able to self-fund, the money aspect is critical. I believe that, in general, PhDs take longer to complete i…

> the money aspect is critical Any reputable PhD or DPhil in computer science is fully funded. You don't need to think about a part-time job or self-funding. > In my experience it is very difficult to be accepted when you propose specific research and it is outside any existing scope. This is more common in the UK and isn't seen as a problem here.

Yes but fully funded can still span a large range. 20k pounds in UK versus 50k pounds in Switzerland for example.

Re: Ask HN: PhD in the UK or US?

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I'd say look for good funding and someone who is willing to provide plenty of freedom on your research program (the ones who people say they are always busy are good candidates for advisors) make sure that this person is well connected and can get you some contact to help whenever you are stuck.

Re: Ask HN: PhD in the UK or US?

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OP as a US citizen, extending your network outside the USA is probably a good idea. If you want to stay after, it's easier to immigrate having done your education there both for legal reasons + simply having a network.

You will possibly never have a chance to study abroad again. If you don't have a partner or children, I strong consider taking the chance now while you can.

Also as a practical matter it's my understanding there's more work life balance in a UK PhD, better pay (you won't get rich but less worry about rent etc) and often subsidized housing.

To be honest if I had to choose between Oxford and a top place like Stanford or CMU, I'd take the chance OP. I think in an increasingly global word, you should seize the chance to extend uour network abroad.

And on a practical note, doing weekend trips to Paris or Amsterdam instead of Santa Cruz or Vermont is preferable IMHO ;)

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