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UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by monochromatic »

redcalx wrote: post #16
barry0079 wrote: post #10

Not before plastering the faces of an innocent couple nationwide. I think they deserve reparation for this.

The paper's that did that made clearly libellous claims - because the couple had not yet been charged with an offence when their names were published. Those paper's can now expect libel claims against them, although given the clear breach of libel law I expect they will wish to settle out of court rather than take on the extra expense of a court case they can't win.

I’m not too familiar with UK libel law. Is it not a defense that they were reporting on statements they were given? Is there a reasonableness question?

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by jacquesm »

benj111 wrote: post #37
DanBC wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are some very small protests in the UK from people wearing Yellow Vests. These appear to be from Brexit supporters. Here's a video of some people blocking a bridge, causing delay to an ambo: https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/10735588338789621...

So Brexit supporters are copying French fuel protesters even though we have a different fuel duty regime that isn't set by Europe, and they want to leave Europe (and by extension, France) anyway? That makes perfect sense.

For a real head twister: the various 'exit' and 'anti-eu' groups have tried to unite EU wide... That one still has me wondering if they realize what they are doing.

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by Angostura »

alt_f4 wrote: post #36

They also claimed these drones were "industrial specification". How did they determine that when they've never seen them? There should be some sort of penalty for blatantly lying to the public, even if it is done to save face about your incompetence.

Who was "they" can you find the on-the-record comment that suggested this?

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by [deleted] »

benj111 wrote: post #27
beerlord wrote: post #14

The suggestion is that the airports were under major terrorism threat, which is why the army was involved. They didn't say this to avoid spooking the public, and having a whole lot of people cancel their flights and holidays (plus it would have been major fuel for the Yellow Vests).

The yellow vests, as in the protests in France? What's that got to do with drones in the UK???

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Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by chrisseaton »

Angostura wrote: post #44
alt_f4 wrote: post #36

They also claimed these drones were "industrial specification". How did they determine that when they've never seen them? There should be some sort of penalty for blatantly lying to the public, even if it is done to save face about your incompetence.

Who was "they" can you find the on-the-record comment that suggested this?

The Police literally said 'industrial specification' on their own Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/sussex_police/status/1075723025713127424

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by benj111 »

jacquesm wrote: post #43
benj111 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Brexit supporters are copying French fuel protesters even though we have a different fuel duty regime that isn't set by Europe, and they want to leave Europe (and by extension, France) anyway? That makes perfect sense.

For a real head twister: the various 'exit' and 'anti-eu' groups have tried to unite EU wide... That one still has me wondering if they realize what they are doing.

So they've formed a.... union?

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by abrowne »

monochromatic wrote: post #41
redcalx wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The paper's that did that made clearly libellous claims - because the couple had not yet been charged with an offence when their names were published. Those paper's can now expect libel claims against them, although given the clear breach of libel law I expect they will wish to settle out of court rather than take on the extra expense of a court case they can't win.

I’m not too familiar with UK libel law. Is it not a defense that they were reporting on statements they were given? Is there a reasonableness question?

AFAIK the police specifically didn't release the names.

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Post by bgeeek »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #17
chrisseaton wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Police in the UK often say the most ludicrous things in statements, and the basic public speaking skills of the people they choose to put out is often very limited. They always look like they're caught in the headlights while trying to sweatily stumble through reading some words off a page. I'm not sure what institutionally causes this, but it must be something causing it as it's always the same. Remember when re…

They don't hire the brightest - recently I heard a former senior ex met natsec policeman who presented as very very stupid individual I would not trust to investigate a missing kitten. There was also the scandal where a v senior copper on the Cyber side was found cheating.

To be fair, and I've come across this so many times, you can be good at your job and still have awful presentation skills. I don't think we get taught things like this in the UK and/or get practise in it, unlike other countries.
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