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UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Not before plastering the faces of an innocent couple nationwide. I think they deserve reparation for this.

As far as we know it wasn't the police who reported their names and addresses. Police typically don't release names until someone is charged.

Newspapers reported their names, usually that happens off the back of neighbours tipping off the papers for cash about the police knocking on doors.

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This country ( UK ) is highly prone to mass psychosis. Not really ascribing anything negative there, just an observation. A few winters ago there was minute by minute updates on Bird Flu. The press was covering swans and ducks found dead on the ground. Each individual fowl corpse was covered in breathless detail amongst infographics and timelines The government was manoeuvred into buying close to a billion pounds of…

This is a terrible, terrible example. Tamiflu is not a vaccine, it’s a treatment. It’s use is recommended in some cases according to clinical best practices, and purchases were not due to the government being “manoeuvred”. And further, the fact that an outbreak didn’t happen doesn’t mean that planning for an outbreak is bad.

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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post #7

This country ( UK ) is highly prone to mass psychosis. Not really ascribing anything negative there, just an observation. A few winters ago there was minute by minute updates on Bird Flu. The press was covering swans and ducks found dead on the ground. Each individual fowl corpse was covered in breathless detail amongst infographics and timelines The government was manoeuvred into buying close to a billion pounds of…

Under £500m. Still a huge amount but considerably less than £9b.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26954482

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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The suggestion is that the airports were under major terrorism threat, which is why the army was involved.

They didn't say this to avoid spooking the public, and having a whole lot of people cancel their flights and holidays (plus it would have been major fuel for the Yellow Vests).

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post #7

This country ( UK ) is highly prone to mass psychosis. Not really ascribing anything negative there, just an observation. A few winters ago there was minute by minute updates on Bird Flu. The press was covering swans and ducks found dead on the ground. Each individual fowl corpse was covered in breathless detail amongst infographics and timelines The government was manoeuvred into buying close to a billion pounds of…

> The government was manoeuvred into buying £9 billion pounds of Tamiflu vaccine.

£9bn was about the total prescription medication budget at the time, so I think you've gone wrong somewhere.

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Not before plastering the faces of an innocent couple nationwide. I think they deserve reparation for this.

The paper's that did that made clearly libellous claims - because the couple had not yet been charged with an offence when their names were published. Those paper's can now expect libel claims against them, although given the clear breach of libel law I expect they will wish to settle out of court rather than take on the extra expense of a court case they can't win.

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> The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a "miscommunication by police", a government source has told the BBC. > During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate. ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714 ) As much as "it was all a false alarm" would make a killer headline (and clear…

The Police in the UK often say the most ludicrous things in statements, and the basic public speaking skills of the people they choose to put out is often very limited. They always look like they're caught in the headlights while trying to sweatily stumble through reading some words off a page. I'm not sure what institutionally causes this, but it must be something causing it as it's always the same. Remember when re…

They don't hire the brightest - recently I heard a former senior ex met natsec policeman who presented as very very stupid individual I would not trust to investigate a missing kitten.

There was also the scandal where a v senior copper on the Cyber side was found cheating.

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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post #16

Not before plastering the faces of an innocent couple nationwide. I think they deserve reparation for this.

The paper's that did that made clearly libellous claims - because the couple had not yet been charged with an offence when their names were published. Those paper's can now expect libel claims against them, although given the clear breach of libel law I expect they will wish to settle out of court rather than take on the extra expense of a court case they can't win.

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Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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And yet, from the article: "investigators do have more to work with after they recovered a fallen and damaged drone from the north side of the airport."

Which technically can mean a lot of things, that drone could have been there for a while, and just been found when they combed everything for a drone.

Indeed. If they can't link it to anyone or even any time, then it can't be used as evidence. Although it may be a fruitful line of enquiry if was one of the problem drones from last week. E.g. tracing sale of parts from serial numbers.

Re: UK police release airport drone suspects, admit there may not have been drones

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Not before plastering the faces of an innocent couple nationwide. I think they deserve reparation for this.

As far as we know it wasn't the police who reported their names and addresses. Police typically don't release names until someone is charged. Newspapers reported their names, usually that happens off the back of neighbours tipping off the papers for cash about the police knocking on doors.

Or an envelope of cash to a bent copper
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