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Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by Harvey-Specter » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 9:47 PM UTC

Traster wrote: post #9

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Smells like an FCC regulation waiting to happen I don't see a problem. Users want influencers backed by brands. Brands want influencers with lots of users. Unless the influencer falsely represents their sponsorship history to a brand, this "hack" doesn't hurt anyone. The worst-off party are users. They follow someone they think is shilling products but is actually shilling themselves. Given this is Instagram, I don…

Most of the time this doesn't hurt anyone, but let's say for the sake of argument that one of these influencers isn't a mildly attractive middle-class teenage girl with thoughts that don't extend beyond family friendly fun and self-enrichment. Let's say instead you have a 25 year old man who started out with inspirational instagram posts have slowly started to cross the line into far-right slogans and maga hats. Now…

Are you suggesting some law preventing individuals from commenting on products and services unless they're being paid to do so?

Or only if the company providing those goods/services doesn't like what is being said, or who is saying it?

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by ACow_Adonis » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 9:49 PM UTC

Why give them (and their industry) the respect they so desperately crave by calling them influences and brand ambassadors when the English language already has an entire cornucopia of applicable organic words describing this phenomenon.

Shill, plant, phoney, stooge, wannabe, peddler.

Don't let the marketers win :p

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by snaky » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 10:08 PM UTC

avip wrote: post #20

So finally we've come full cycle. The wannabe "influencer" with his fake "followers" bought 1$ a pound on fiverr, is posting fake "sponsored content", so social media "marketers" would perceive him as valuable enough to (fakely) promote their (probably faked) product. I ran out of double-quotes, you could legitly double-quote any other word up there.

The question is what should be the next logical step?

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by pmlnr » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 10:16 PM UTC

A fake internet, with real names, vs a real internet with pseudonyms, 10-15 years ago. Interesting. Maybe one of those things need to be fake to keep the universe in equivalent exchange.

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by dustingetz » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 10:29 PM UTC

snaky wrote: post #23

avip wrote: post #20

So finally we've come full cycle. The wannabe "influencer" with his fake "followers" bought 1$ a pound on fiverr, is posting fake "sponsored content", so social media "marketers" would perceive him as valuable enough to (fakely) promote their (probably faked) product. I ran out of double-quotes, you could legitly double-quote any other word up there.

The question is what should be the next logical step?

brands stop paying because influencers doing it for free

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by Para2016 » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 10:31 PM UTC

From the article: "If someone who is 20 years old watching YouTube or Instagram sees these people traveling with brands, promoting brands, I don’t see why they wouldn’t do everything they could to get in on that.”

-- It's interesting to see quotes like this, especially in the context of the "everything bubble". 2019 is going to be economically horrendous, these people won't survive.

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by freehunter » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 10:44 PM UTC

BadassFractal wrote: post #13

willart4food wrote: post #8

Well, on a positive note, since they pay for those products themselves, they can write off the cost from their taxes. #thot_patrol https://www.reddit.com/r/thot_patrol/

I like justice porn as much as anybody else, but I wonder if some of these outlets become more about venting one's misogyny, more than about pointing out wrongdoing? Lots of people out there who ascribe their grievances to a group of "others", be that immigrants, ethnicities, genders etc. I can see those channels turning into a confirmation bias echo chamber pretty quick.

It's literally just misogyny. It has absolutely nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with putting women in their place.

I mean, the fourth most upvoted post on there celebrates the indiscriminate death of thousands of women. Absolutely disgusting. It's just a group of men celebrating the fact that they hate all women simply for existing.

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by GuiA » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 10:46 PM UTC

snaky wrote: post #23

avip wrote: post #20

So finally we've come full cycle. The wannabe "influencer" with his fake "followers" bought 1$ a pound on fiverr, is posting fake "sponsored content", so social media "marketers" would perceive him as valuable enough to (fakely) promote their (probably faked) product. I ran out of double-quotes, you could legitly double-quote any other word up there.

The question is what should be the next logical step?

People realizing that marketing is all smokes and mirrors BS and starting to not give a crap, and instead buying things from local producers and manufacturers based on how it contributes to and benefits their own community.

It’s the holiday season, please let me dream :-)

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by thoughtpol » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 10:57 PM UTC

Traster wrote: post #9

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Smells like an FCC regulation waiting to happen I don't see a problem. Users want influencers backed by brands. Brands want influencers with lots of users. Unless the influencer falsely represents their sponsorship history to a brand, this "hack" doesn't hurt anyone. The worst-off party are users. They follow someone they think is shilling products but is actually shilling themselves. Given this is Instagram, I don…

Most of the time this doesn't hurt anyone, but let's say for the sake of argument that one of these influencers isn't a mildly attractive middle-class teenage girl with thoughts that don't extend beyond family friendly fun and self-enrichment. Let's say instead you have a 25 year old man who started out with inspirational instagram posts have slowly started to cross the line into far-right slogans and maga hats. Now…

Your example is a little misguided...

Re: Rising Instagram Stars Are Posting Fake Sponsored Content

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Post by avip » Sun, Dec 23, 2018, 11:29 PM UTC

GuiA wrote: post #28

snaky wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is what should be the next logical step?

People realizing that marketing is all smokes and mirrors BS and starting to not give a crap, and instead buying things from local producers and manufacturers based on how it contributes to and benefits their own community. It’s the holiday season, please let me dream :-)

For a dream that is depressingly minor! How about people stop buying things they don't need. Lost crafts of fixing things are thriving again. As result, elderly are re-introduced into society as they have the lost knowledge. Deurbanization starts when people discover they can't grow their own food on concrete. The 9-5 day slowly shifts back to a dynamic sunrise-to-sunset schedule. Cars are banned from small communities because emission degrades the local crops. As a result, kids rediscover they can safely play outside, without the limiting supervision of adults. That starts a positive feedback loop that collapses the (a)social networks, and as a byproduct the whole economy of attention.