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Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Malaclypse: Everyone is hurting eachother, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war.

The Goddess: What is the matter with that, if it's what you want to do?

Malaclypse: But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it!

The Goddess: Oh. Well, then stop.

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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I totally agree. And we're the ones paying the price of their actions.

Who is we? I am not paying anything AFAIK. When my girlfriend had problems, she simply stopped using it that much. I myself simply don't subscribe to pseudomotivational bullshit or internet "personalities".

When people get stuck in a bubble of fake news and manufactured outrage they tend to vote accordingly, and that does impact you.

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Facebook is playing a very dangerous game by not allowing people full control of their feeds and even algorithmically sorting things. That's different from just "social media", it's a specifically Facebook way of doing things

Isn’t Twitter doing this as well by algorithmically sorting their feed? Why single out Facebook?

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is we? I am not paying anything AFAIK. When my girlfriend had problems, she simply stopped using it that much. I myself simply don't subscribe to pseudomotivational bullshit or internet "personalities".

When people get stuck in a bubble of fake news and manufactured outrage they tend to vote accordingly, and that does impact you.

Good point

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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post #3

Facebook is playing a very dangerous game by not allowing people full control of their feeds and even algorithmically sorting things. That's different from just "social media", it's a specifically Facebook way of doing things

Isn’t Twitter doing this as well by algorithmically sorting their feed? Why single out Facebook?

There’s a single switch on Twitter to turn this off.

You can bash Twitter for a lot of things, but this isn’t it.

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Interesting thing is that antidepressant use rised despite antidepressant being mostly ineffective and their underlying principle of action being flawed. This raises the question of why antidepressant use rised this way. Could it be that heavily medicated people are easier to manage and keep under control to prevent them from rebelling against the lives they're forced into by the societal system ? Could it be related…

> antidepressant being mostly ineffective That needs a great big giant source. Because there are so many peer reviewed studies and meta-studies that show that they are effective.

Antidepressants and the Placebo Effect

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Interesting article about something we should definitely be having a conversation about.

But i want to point out an anecdote: we have a newborn and we share pics of her privately with fam. All the pics are of her good moments: her first smiles, her just being cute, etc... We don't share pics or videos of her screaming her lungs out, or of her diaper explosions, which intuitively woul be weird.

Reading this article it sounds like we are doing ourselves a disservice by not sharing the bad. Like we're not being honest with ourselves or our family. But are we? isn't the point of memories to preserve the good ones? The printed photo albums my parents have of my childhood don't have any pictures of me having a meltdown. There is a saying among mothers that you forget the pain of childbirth otherwise you'd never have a second child.

I'm sure social media makes things worse by being too present in people's self esteem but I am not sure memories have to preserve the downsides of reality.

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Interesting article about something we should definitely be having a conversation about. But i want to point out an anecdote: we have a newborn and we share pics of her privately with fam. All the pics are of her good moments: her first smiles, her just being cute, etc... We don't share pics or videos of her screaming her lungs out, or of her diaper explosions, which intuitively woul be weird. Reading this article it…

To make a fair comparison you’d need to put it so that you’d be checking happy family/friend album photos every day (perhaps several times per day) from different people.

Occasional photo album watching (e.g. during Xmas) is a different story.

Re: Depression, Self-Identity and Reality: Living in a Story Created by Facebook

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Who is we? I am not paying anything AFAIK. When my girlfriend had problems, she simply stopped using it that much. I myself simply don't subscribe to pseudomotivational bullshit or internet "personalities".

"We" is referring to society in general. There will be exceptions to everything. Maybe you'd like to point out that people are free to opt out? Is that what you're saying?

It sounds good on paper, but in reality, it is not. For many people, they absolutely need to be on FB otherwise they will be excluded from all their friends. Sure those people can choose be hermits.
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